Will airlines force employees get vaccine??
12-02-2020, 03:10 AM
#251
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It still says for trials of vaccines. The emergency use approval is for the final trials. Once it's approved by the FDA, you're fine.
12-02-2020, 04:26 AM
#252
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it won't be "approved" in the next few months, and even if it is, the last couple sentences from the alpa email say the FAA is still considering.. Unless the FAA says it's ok, it's not ok for you to take it and fly.
12-02-2020, 06:09 AM
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I was planning on getting the vaccine as soon as it's available, but not until the FAA gives the green light. I they have a couple of months to decide before it really affects us anyway.
12-02-2020, 06:17 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. One might argue that having a bunch of pilots taking a "never been done before" at the same time is a bad idea and since pilots are such a small percentage of the population, not allowing them to take the vaccine has no effect on public health.
I was planning on getting the vaccine as soon as it's available, but not until the FAA gives the green light. I they have a couple of months to decide before it really affects us anyway.
I was planning on getting the vaccine as soon as it's available, but not until the FAA gives the green light. I they have a couple of months to decide before it really affects us anyway.
12-02-2020, 06:19 AM
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The FAA does not restrict or monitor vaccines with regards to medicals. If the vaccine is approved, the FAA has no policy in place (as of now) to prevent pilots from getting it.
This is from Pilot Medical Solutions, Inc.:
"In general, immunizations are not disqualifying for general aviation flying. And although the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) recently expanded Box 17(a) on Form 8500-8 to include “Any Medication,” it was not their intent to include vaccine prescriptions. Pilots do not have to report receipt of any vaccine on their FAA medical application."
This is from Pilot Medical Solutions, Inc.:
"In general, immunizations are not disqualifying for general aviation flying. And although the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) recently expanded Box 17(a) on Form 8500-8 to include “Any Medication,” it was not their intent to include vaccine prescriptions. Pilots do not have to report receipt of any vaccine on their FAA medical application."
I would probably NOT take an Emergency Use vaccine without clear guidance from the FAA. They apparently didn't want us participating in the vaccine trials: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...ualifying.html
If all goes well, I'm sure the EUA will be quickly superseded by normal regulatory approval before they even get to us anyway. The acid test part of phase-4 will be all the medical people.
But either way, the FAA knows they will have to address the issue one way or another very soon. If the EUA is still effective when our number comes up, FAA will then have to make a call. IF they tell us no-go, they will need very compelling data to justify that, routine bureaucratic CYA will not be sufficient justification under the circumstances.
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12-02-2020, 06:24 AM
#257
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That's not the point. The point is how the risk averse bureaucracy of the FAA sees it. I hope the approve it so that we can get it when it's available to us.
12-02-2020, 06:40 AM
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12-02-2020, 06:54 AM
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Actually, the real question is if the known side effects tick any of the boxes of the regulations of Part 67. I'm guessing of course, but, I'm thinking it won't, just like the flu vaccine. If they don't approve it and it's not contrary to Part 67, then you can sue them.
12-02-2020, 07:29 AM
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That actually makes us prime targets FOR the vaccine. We travel all over the world, overnight in populated areas, and spend lots of time in populated airports. Then, factor in people who commute and stay in crashpads, one infected pilot could spread the virus pretty far.
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