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Old 08-28-2020, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No, that's not how it was applied for about 200 years so why change it now?

If that's what they meant, they would have rounded up everybody's muskets and locked them up in the militia armory in 1783.
Moot point. The weapons are OUT THERE now, on the order of 400 million of them. No realistic scenario takes them away.
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Moot point. The weapons are OUT THERE now, on the order of 400 million of them. No realistic scenario takes them away.
Yes that is true. The people who think they can just re-interpret and steam-roll the second amendment will be in for a rude awakening if they ever actually grow enough sack to do more than talk about it. I have friends who never owned guns, or maybe had a glock for home-defense but who are now buying up ARs.
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Old 08-29-2020, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Moot point. The weapons are OUT THERE now, on the order of 400 million of them. No realistic scenario takes them away.
Good shooting soldier. Without court supremacy through precedent/interpretation, article (amendment) language is rendered arbitrary to meaningless. Regulatory enforcement bends to prevailing winds of regime policy directives and punishment schemes. Overturn carry with stand your ground opinions, 2nd amendment protections typically script Butch & Sundance final scenes for individual v. state disputes. https://youtu.be/VMSok04plVg

"But though I have no quarrel with the common law and its process, I do question whether the attitude of the common-law process judge—the mind-set that asks, “What is the most desirable resolution of this case, and how can any impediments to the achievement of that result be evaded?”—is appropriate for most of the work that I do, and much of the work that state judges do. We live in an age of legislation, and most new law is statutory law."
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:28 AM
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Good shooting soldier. Without court supremacy through precedent/interpretation, article (amendment) language is rendered arbitrary to meaningless. Regulatory enforcement bends to prevailing winds of regime policy directives and punishment schemes. Overturn carry with stand your ground opinions, 2nd amendment protections typically script Butch & Sundance final scenes for individual v. state disputes. https://youtu.be/VMSok04plVg

"But though I have no quarrel with the common law and its process, I do question whether the attitude of the common-law process judge—the mind-set that asks, “What is the most desirable resolution of this case, and how can any impediments to the achievement of that result be evaded?”—is appropriate for most of the work that I do, and much of the work that state judges do. We live in an age of legislation, and most new law is statutory law."
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And I suppose you believe the 18th amendment ended forever any debate about the legal status of “demon rum” in The US?

Acknowledging the reality of a situation and the nature of human beings does not make one a bomb-thrower. Some things cannot be changed by legislative or even dictatorial whim, not in a generation, not in several generations, and perhaps never. And sometimes competing priorities can never be reconciled. Legislatures are composed of politicians, not gods...
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:35 AM
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And I suppose you believe the 18th amendment ended forever any debate about the legal status of “demon rum” in The US?

Acknowledging the reality of a situation and the nature of human beings does not make one a bomb-thrower. Some things cannot be changed by legislative or even dictatorial whim, not in a generation, not in several generations, and perhaps never. And sometimes competing priorities can never be reconciled. Legislatures are composed of politicians, not gods...
Thats what reeducation camps are for. 😆

Just ask the bernie bros.
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:40 AM
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Thats what reeducation camps are for. 😆

Just ask the bernie bros.
If the Red Guard couldn’t make it work (And they couldn’t) I doubt the Bernie Bro’s will have better luck. H€||, even the Pol Pot solution didn’t work. Homo Sapiens can out-stubborn cats...
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If the Red Guard couldn’t make it work (And they couldn’t) I doubt the Bernie Bro’s will have better luck. H€||, even the Pol Pot solution didn’t work. Homo Sapiens can out-stubborn cats...
IMHO that realization was the genius of those who established this nation.

History demonstrates human nature still wont stop the totalitarians from breaking tens of millions of eggs in the recipie for their 'perfect' omlette.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And I suppose you believe the 18th amendment ended forever any debate about the legal status of “demon rum” in The US?

Acknowledging the reality of a situation and the nature of human beings does not make one a bomb-thrower. Some things cannot be changed by legislative or even dictatorial whim, not in a generation, not in several generations, and perhaps never. And sometimes competing priorities can never be reconciled. Legislatures are composed of politicians, not gods...
No one called you a bomb thrower. As to rum, makes for hard hangovers but yes, repeal of prohibition (18th/21st) was good government (3 branches) in practice. Scalia, IMO, ponders the proclivity of activist decisions on the bench. His long advocacy of strict interpretation for matters before the court of final appeal sets our system apart from those many subject to rule of one party or one man.
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Old 09-10-2020, 04:02 AM
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AM I the only one here bothered by the fact that many of these COVID 19 vaccines will be made with fetal cells from aborted babies?

Or this DoD run program called Warp Speed?
actually I've been reading through the responses. And you're the only person so far that has a brain. Everyone is willing to sign up for a vaccine that has not been proven safe. In fact there are no vaccines that are technically safe. If Pilot's would actually do their homework they would easily find out that the 1986 vaccine Act made it so that you cannot sue vaccine manufacturer. As for not getting things like polio becuse that's what people tend to think of....the vaccines are effective because we don't have polio. If Pilot's once again would go back and take the time to read history they would easily find out that during the same time as polio there was something called DDT. There was a slogan bugs don't bite me because I have my DDT. It was soon found it DDT causes cancer. And ironically as soon as they took DDT off the shelf polio went away. So Pilots don't be lazy get out there and find out what's in your vaccine before you go and start shooting it in your veins. Moreover things that don't show up now might show up later on in life. Aluminum has been linked to dementia. Most Pilots obviously don't realize that aluminum Mercury formaldehyde and aborted fetal tissue is in vaccines. I for one will leave the airline if vaccines are mandated. If raw love you don't know take the time to look up and see how this is all been planned. Don't be lazy don't write it off as conspiracy theorists. The conspiracy theorists are the ones that you should be listening to not the main spell media. Do your homework stop being lazy and listening to the garbage on your tell lie vision
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Originally Posted by BobZ
IMHO that realization was the genius of those who established this nation.


History demonstrates human nature still wont stop the totalitarians from breaking tens of millions of eggs in the recipie for their 'perfect' omlette.

My opinion is that nobody will ever take our guns away. Period. Dot. There are too many in circulation and guns are central to the core American belief of remaining self sufficient. They're a means of protection, and in a lot of areas, food, if the government can't provide basic services. The Left will never take our guns away and the Right will never take away abortion. I think both sides take a swipe at the other side to rally their bases, but realistically those two issues aren't changing.
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