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Old 12-12-2020, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I really don’t think you know what GDP is

Future GDP requires investment, investment that won’t be available because it was spent futilely spent saving a few years of life.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Future GDP requires investment, investment that won’t be available because it was spent futilely spent saving a few years of life.
that’s not how “$6t was spent” on fighting covid. Because $6t wasn’t spent.

Nobody said GDP growth doesn’t require investment, although “investment” in those terms is pretty ethereal, anyway.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
that’s not how “$6t was spent” on fighting covid. Because $6t wasn’t spent.

Nobody said GDP growth doesn’t require investment, although “investment” in those terms is pretty ethereal, anyway.
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Old 12-12-2020, 11:18 AM
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Of course it is. It’s future money that can not be invested in the development of humanity. Less scientific research, education spending, time spent getting educated, healthcare discoveries, etc.
I think that is a moot point, the government is going to spend continuously regardless of debt/interest levels. Eventually, it will tank the currency in the future. The government has been replacing its spending in GDP for actual growth for decades now.
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
again, that’s not how GDP works
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again, that’s not how GDP works
Can you please explain it to us then? The US government increased deficit spending to reduce the risks of a voluntarily GDP collapse prompted by shutting down large sectors of the economy and forcing people to reduce their economic spending and output (consumption) in an attempt to save lives of what in most cases amounts to the elderly obese.
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Can you please explain it to us then? The US government increased deficit spending to reduce the risks of a voluntarily GDP collapse prompted by shutting down large sectors of the economy and forcing people to reduce their economic spending and output (consumption) in an attempt to save lives of what in most cases amounts to the elderly obese.
did the US increase deficit spending by $6t since March?
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
We actually don’t know that. We weren’t wasting testing on the barely sick earlier on in the epidemic, and for the young that’s the overwhelming majority.



Yes we do, at least recently. It’s the younger


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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Why exactly do we care about who gets infected? It's not about deaths?
You didn’t comprehend what I was saying before that. What do you expect to happen when most of the younger and middle aged group gets infected as well as the overwhelmed healthcare system? A booming economy? Cases have to stay lower.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
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If COVID didn't cause severe illness causing hospitalization and death, nobody would care if it infected 200k/day. If we can quickly minimize spread to demographics at highest risk of severe illness requiring hospitalization and leading to death, you improve mortality statistics and alleviate your health system burden...which is the ONLY justifiable reason to "lock down".

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I think you answered your own concern.....

Ok, your want of the situation is understandable, but in the real world Covid does cause severe illness and it does overwhelm whole states worth of healthcare system. All causing lockdowns.

So there’s still no answer on HOW you plan on quickly minimizing the spread to those that are at risk. And also we already established that the young are requiring hospitalizations now more and more since it’s them who are getting infected leading to overwhelmed hospitals and lockdowns. HOW do you plan on doing it? Tell them to stop going out? We’ve already tried that.
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