TaylorPilot

The flu kills between 30 to 70k Americans every year. 150k people die every day, day after day, year after year...If you assume that every COVID death that is counted is legit (they aren't), and all the people that died from COVID wouldn't have died from some other underline issue (many would have), all the COVID deaths to this point would account for less than a weeks worth of deaths for the year...COVID deaths are a rounding error....Do you go get a flu shot every year...if not, you are full of it...The CDC said the median age for a COVID death is 78 years old..guess what the avg lifespan of an American is...78.6 years....so I guess that the avg person dying from COVID have a 50% chance of dying from something else the same year anyway...it gets worse the older they get...I can't decide if you are a a troll with with a borderline personality, or if you really believe the stuff you're saying...

NE_Pilot

You really should give WutFace a break, this is a tough time for him: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bald-ea...overnment/#app

ShyGuy

Gee, thanks for making it political. You literally think team B/H is going to wave a magic wand and instantly change things around. You don't know where the 4 yr mark is coming from? How about instead of complaining with political rants, you go research how long it takes for a vaccine to get on the market from zero/scratch to the masses. 4 yrs was the quickest. 8-10 yrs typical. We're getting one now less than 1 yr and for an upper respiratory virus. Yeah right.

tallpilot

I think it's more like 8,000 people die per day in the U.S. You are quite correct if you back out the elderly and obese these deaths really are a rounding error. But judging by the screaming and willing embrace of totalitarianism even from some on this board, I'm afraid we're in real trouble going forward. Self reliance and calculated risks are anachronisms now.

TaylorPilot

I meant across the world. We loose about 150k a day worldwide and have lost about 750,000 so far world wide to covid. It ends up being the total Covid deaths is just over 5 days of average deaths. You are right though...people have no perspective because no one anywhere is laying it out like that. I saw a stat that 50k worldwide die a day from heart disease and another 38-40k die a day from cancer. We shut down the world for a flu that kills really old or sick people, but cancer that kills 16 million people a year, including children, is just part of the plan. So for one week out of the year, professional athletes wear pink shoes, and that is good enough...

Duffman

For perspective, these are the leading causes of death in the US:

• Heart disease: 647,457
• Cancer: 599,108
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
• Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
• Diabetes: 83,564
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

Car accidents are 38,800

You could argue all of these issues except "accidents" and "self harm" are primarily old people whose time was up. I'll bet anything that things are going to return to normal at about the same rate the virus gets mitigated, because a lot of people in this country ARE self reliant and calculate risk. Considering that if you go to an out-of-network provider to get a COVID19 test you might be on the hook for thousands of dollars, there's no telling what insurance loopholes exist if you actually do get the virus. I went to an urgent care down the street for the flu two years ago, they told me they take my insurance, I didn't do my due diligence because I was miserable, and a couple months later I got a bill in the mail for $400. Imagine the bill for a few nights in the hospital for COVID, now keep in mind the average household income for a family is $59k and they don't have 3 months of savings. Imagine two weeks of lost wages, just for the quarantine, if you work by the hour. The govt won't save you, and if they do, they'll make it painful as hell. It'd be easier just to never get the virus in the first place. People complain about being stuck at home, but when push turns to shove, they just stay at home because they're self reliant and getting the virus means they have to rely on the US healthcare system and the govt. EFF that. I'm not trying to be a downer, just adding perspective that I don't think you're accounting for.

WutFace

First off, your statistics are laughing inaccurate. 150,000 per day? Let's think about that for a moment. That means America is losing 54 million, 1/6th of its population per year. Who's trolling now?

So what's not to believe? 400,000 US COVID deaths by February. Have you seen the projections? The winter is going to be ugly because we had to get those haircuts in April and May. Congratulations everyone.


We're looking at 1,000 deaths per day for the next 2 months. October 1st we're going to see the deaths skyrocket with the fall and winter weather. 400,000 by February.

I ask again, who's really trolling?

TaylorPilot

No one said 150k Americans. I said 150k people a day die...as in, on the planet...with 750k total dead WITH Covid so far , that is about 5 days worth of avg deaths...and no we aren't looking at 1000 deaths a day for the next two months...we are looking at 5k dead Americans a day for the rest of our lives...maybe 20% of them will be listed as COVID for the next few months...at the end of the day, what does it matter...they are dead either way...get a grip...

WutFace

Why are you comparing global death stats? The epicenter is the United States. Most of the rest of the world got their sh*t in order. We're the one with the grease fire.

The models don't really extend beyond December, but for argument's sake lets say 500k in 12 months. That's an 18% increase of additional deaths for 2020-2021. (March to March) Might not seem like a lot to you, but imagine the cooling effect on the economy as people start to see first hand deaths from COVID. You might even see some APC deniers even change their minds.

In addition, these statistics don't even account for the amount of infected and permanently damaged. Anyway, I'm done conversing with you. Your mind is made up. This ain't a big deal for you, until it kills or injures someone you personally know and care about.

Hopefully no one you know is in that 400,000.

MamaHidesCookie

Please... be done with conversing with everyone...