TSA Numbers
10-06-2020, 12:06 AM
#871
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Fully Retired
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My crystal ball says summer 2021 will be at 80%. International will still lag. Pricing power will not be there. But most airframes parked will be back. The early retired airframes will be replaced over the next couple of years.
10-06-2020, 02:27 AM
#872
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 967
on Airliners.net there is a thread about future bookings that seems to be backed up with actual data. Short answer is pax have changed their habits and are booking inside a 21 day window in numbers we have never seen with relation to all the other windows. So really hard to look out more than one month would be the simple answer.
10-06-2020, 03:06 AM
#873
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,039
Get ready boys and girls, the third wave is coming 
Maybe we will see numbers again like March and April? How is it that every other country in the world can mitigate this but we just keep loosing?
Selfish people directly causing your friends and colleagues to loose their jobs. Pathetic.
Maybe we will see numbers again like March and April? How is it that every other country in the world can mitigate this but we just keep loosing?Selfish people directly causing your friends and colleagues to loose their jobs. Pathetic.
I locked down for a month and a half. Never again. It's not worth it.
10-06-2020, 03:13 AM
#874
777 - ret
Joined APC: Apr 2020
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I agree with all of your other points ... even at 80% it will be tough going for a bit longer.
10-06-2020, 05:53 AM
#876
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,256
beyond TSA numbers, SW Gary Kelly's tune is not so optimistic. I am sure this is, or will be, discussed in the SW forum. When Gary Kelly gets worried, then I get nervous.
Also, IATA and numerous airline CEO's have beat the drum of "not back to normal until 2024."
Assuming a 5% increase each month, and if we close October with 35% average, then March 2021 = 60% and November 2021 = 100%
Also, IATA and numerous airline CEO's have beat the drum of "not back to normal until 2024."
Assuming a 5% increase each month, and if we close October with 35% average, then March 2021 = 60% and November 2021 = 100%
10-06-2020, 08:40 AM
#877
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,240
AA just cancelled 44% of their November flights. UA and Delta are cutting back too. Why book ahead on a flight that’s going to be cancelled anyway? If I were a passenger, I wouldn’t book any further ahead than three weeks right now either. There is no certainty to anything further out. The schedules are written in smoke.
10-06-2020, 08:47 AM
#878
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,382
AA just cancelled 44% of their November flights. UA and Delta are cutting back too. Why book ahead on a flight that’s going to be cancelled anyway? If I were a passenger, I wouldn’t book any further ahead than three weeks right now either. There is no certainty to anything further out. The schedules are written in smoke.
10-06-2020, 08:49 AM
#879
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
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beyond TSA numbers, SW Gary Kelly's tune is not so optimistic. I am sure this is, or will be, discussed in the SW forum. When Gary Kelly gets worried, then I get nervous.
Also, IATA and numerous airline CEO's have beat the drum of "not back to normal until 2024."
Assuming a 5% increase each month, and if we close October with 35% average, then March 2021 = 60% and November 2021 = 100%
Also, IATA and numerous airline CEO's have beat the drum of "not back to normal until 2024."
Assuming a 5% increase each month, and if we close October with 35% average, then March 2021 = 60% and November 2021 = 100%
10-06-2020, 10:19 AM
#880
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,222
When you see selfish people, I assume you are referring to the people who have locked themselves in their homes and refuse to spend money? Are you talking about the governors abusing their powers and forcing businesses closed? Or are you referring to me who refuse to change my way of living because life is too short, covid isn't going anywhere, and it's not nearly as dangerous as the news has made it out to be? People like me are the ones spending money keeping the economy going.
I locked down for a month and a half. Never again. It's not worth it.
I locked down for a month and a half. Never again. It's not worth it.
It's amazing how many people promote the rest of us live in fear. And then cannot fathom how we aren't afraid. And then try to shame us for NOT being afraid.
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