Bahamasflyer

When do you best estimate that a vaccine(s) will be available....at least to crew?

rickair7777

My guess, FWIW, would be a vaccine or two approved by year-end, which would go to health-care workers first.

Transportation workers have already been named as critical infrastructure workers who would be a priority somewhere after health-care. So maybe mid/late spring? But you could also make a case that grocery-store workers, uber drivers, etc are also critical, so you could get to 50% of the US population as needing "priority" without too much of a stretch. Time will tell.

Also depends on which vaccine, some have more of a head-start on production and stockpile than others.

howdyclub

I think the TSA numbers can be considered artificially inflated considering how deeply discounted fares are. Can airlines shrink to profitability considering the damaged economy? The FED will end up holding the bag since they are the main ones buying debt, both public and private.

senecacaptain

thread drift. I believe we have a separate vaccine thread.

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BoilerUP

32.90% YoY for yesterday; last Thursday was 31.96% YoY...week over week was up 5.3%.

sumwherelse

Can we get to a million before thanksgiving??? Seems possible.

Elismcpikle

maybe sooner....

CAirBear

I dunno man. Every month I go onto United and AA and check my commute options. Prices are averaging nearly $500 (Roundtrip) for a flight that is 45 minutes long to ORD. Pre Covid this route was CONSIDERABLY cheaper. I am in a city that has lots of biz travel, so hard to tell if this is their new bold strategy, but these fares are certainly not attracting much last minute leisure travel.

Even my airline which is an ULCC isnt that dirt cheap. For fun I go onto our app and "buy tickets" on each of my flights for that trip and then average it out. Lately my average ticket price on a typical 4 day, with 6-7 legs, has been low $100s. Granted I am searching for my flights the day before my trip, but still. I haven't seen many $13 or something ridiculous for quite awhile now.

Great to see mid 800s yesterday. I think this weekend could be in the 900s. SEC football starting back up (irregardless of fans or not) and other things may stir up even more. I also suspect there is SLOWLY starting to be more biz folks flying again. I can't say it for 100% certainty, but i suspect that SOME of the slight gains we are seeing could be accounted for some biz folks.

WhiskeyDelta

I largely agree and I’ll add that a lot of travel lately has been booked much closer in to the dates of travel than is the historical norm. That in and of itself commands a higher premium. Plus, add in that airlines, at least the ones that block middle seats, are hoping or even expecting pax will pay for those open seats with higher fares.