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Old 09-24-2020, 05:18 AM
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9/23
608,726
27.8%

600k for a Wednesday.


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Old 09-24-2020, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
9/23
608,726
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600k for a Wednesday.


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IF and this is a big IF - leisure is dropping as it does seasonably and business is increasing as it does seasonably then WED will be our new TUE. We will know in a few weeks.
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Old 09-24-2020, 05:35 AM
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loads need to start picking up. I am ready to routinely see above 35%. "ten more people flew this Thirsday versus last Thursday" is not going to bring parked wide bodies back.

Time for things to start coming back.
I agree. But the industry is still at the mercy of lockdowns and restrictions. There are still very few places to GO. I don't see a million daily until spring.
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I agree. But the industry is still at the mercy of lockdowns and restrictions. There are still very few places to GO. I don't see a million daily until spring.
Thanksgiving travel will hit the magic million.
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Thanksgiving travel will hit the magic million.

Is the normal number around thanksgiving 3 million? If so, then I agree, we’ve settled into ~1\3 of 2019, and nothing makes me believe that will change until post COVID.


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Is the normal number around thanksgiving 3 million? If so, then I agree, we’ve settled into ~1\3 of 2019, and nothing makes me believe that will change until post COVID.


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"busiest day" during Thanksgiving holidays is the Sunday after thanksgiving (the "return home" day), averages 2.33 M: https://www.bts.gov/topics/airlines-...g-thanksgiving

If we do 2.33Mon any of those days, and have 50% TSA numbers, that will be 1.165M

which is fine, but then if it drops to 30-35% again, then what?

30-35% cannot be the non-holiday, new normal. Or we will need a PSP until 2025
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
"busiest day" during Thanksgiving holidays is the Sunday after thanksgiving (the "return home" day), averages 2.33 M: https://www.bts.gov/topics/airlines-...g-thanksgiving

If we do 2.33Mon any of those days, and have 50% TSA numbers, that will be 1.165M

which is fine, but then if it drops to 30-35% again, then what?

30-35% cannot be the non-holiday, new normal. Or we will need a PSP until 2025

The Bobs are planning for what the industry will look like post COVID. Until we are past this, 30% is what we have. Congress isn’t going to keep bailing us out, maybe they have one more in them that gets us past this, but I’m not counting it.


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Those TSA numbers aren't telling the whole picture either. The fares are significantly down to attract what few people are left flying. This is not going to be sustainable for long unless something changes. We need business travelers to start up again before they get too comfortable with their Zoom meetings. Luckily, I don't see how sales will ever be done successfully over a video conference, so I do think at some point they will need to return at least a portion of their workforce.
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
"busiest day" during Thanksgiving holidays is the Sunday after thanksgiving (the "return home" day), averages 2.33 M: https://www.bts.gov/topics/airlines-...g-thanksgiving

If we do 2.33Mon any of those days, and have 50% TSA numbers, that will be 1.165M

which is fine, but then if it drops to 30-35% again, then what?

30-35% cannot be the non-holiday, new normal. Or we will need a PSP until 2025
Even the Spanish Flu ran its course in two years, without vaccine, corticosteroids, monoclonal antibodies, or anything else to ease the pain. The issue is we’ve spent a couple of generations of training people to be snowflakes. How quickly THAT can be overcome will determine the speed of recovery. And I think we are starting to see it. People - especially young people who are at minimal risk - are just getting COVID restriction fatigue and are becoming more willing to take risks to get life back to normal. The politicians will resist only until they notice the political winds change and then leap to get in front of the mob to claim leadership. It isn’t QUITE happening yet, but it will long before 2025.


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