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Old 08-11-2020, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
08-10/Monday: 29.7%

seems like the 30% level is designed to be unbreakable.
*except the three times we did break it
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Old 08-11-2020, 07:26 AM
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*except the three times we did break it
Yes, those are great. July 2, 3 and August 8, 9. I am counting August 8 because it was 29.83% so for positive energy lets call it "30". A purist look at the data however says August 8 does not count, but let's count it for discussion....

So: July 4 weekend (July 3, Friday, was a federal holiday with government and banks closed) and a weekend in Mid August. Possibly associated to high travel numbers for the holiday and summer-is-over lets go home kids, activity.

So during the entire summer, only two weekends, one always known for bonkers travel (July 4 weekend), and this recent weekend, have we touched 30% or broken 30%.

Most schools, virtual or physical, are back in Session on August 24. I doubt the Aug 22/23 weekend will be high counts. Maybe (that would be great). I doubt it.

As stated, 30% seems hard to break.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:04 AM
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I think we are going to need to get some definition on the school situation. With only a few weeks to go, my kids school board is still milling and bunching and turning out incomprehensible gibberish. They don’t actually know if they will be all virtual, part virtual, two day a week half the kids actually show up on your days and just homework the others, or what? And what guidance they do give has a half-life of about 2-3 days, until they get feedback and change it.

sort of hard to make any plans at all, let alone travel plans as a family.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
Yes, those are great. July 2, 3 and August 8, 9. I am counting August 8 because it was 29.83% so for positive energy lets call it "30". A purist look at the data however says August 8 does not count, but let's count it for discussion....

So: July 4 weekend (July 3, Friday, was a federal holiday with government and banks closed) and a weekend in Mid August. Possibly associated to high travel numbers for the holiday and summer-is-over lets go home kids, activity.

So during the entire summer, only two weekends, one always known for bonkers travel (July 4 weekend), and this recent weekend, have we touched 30% or broken 30%.

Most schools, virtual or physical, are back in Session on August 24. I doubt the Aug 22/23 weekend will be high counts. Maybe (that would be great). I doubt it.

As stated, 30% seems hard to break.
You didn’t say it was “hard to break”, if you did I wouldn’t have said anything because you are absolutely right.

But you said “unbreakable”, and as you pointed out, the 30% barrier has been breached, as recent as just 2 days ago.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
You didn’t say it was “hard to break”, if you did I wouldn’t have said anything because you are absolutely right.

But you said “unbreakable”, and as you pointed out, the 30% barrier has been breached, as recent as just 2 days ago.
good points sir

lets call it hard to break then. in my opinion recency when broken is less important than the circumstances surrounding the break.

namely July 4 travel and currently peak summer travel in Mid to Late August which follows past patterns. Unfortunately I see the numbers dropping in a week or two.

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Old 08-11-2020, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
Unfortunately I see the numbers dropping in a week or two.

Judging by my flight this morning I think it’s already started. Less than 50 pax on a 738



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Old 08-11-2020, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
29.7% YOY. And it was the 10th.

Continuing a slow climb, but with existing domestic restrictions there are still major constraints on demand:

https://www.aarp.org/politics-societ...trictions.html

International travel seems in even worse shape. But this has gone on long enough and the economy deteriorated enough and the future is uncertain enough that people are simply tightening up on their spending as well.

There is also the threat - real or just perceived - that in a lot of cities you might suddenly find yourself in a sort of flash mob demonstration/confrontation. Tempers and frustration levels are high. All in all, not a situation conducive to any sort of speedy return to normal.
If the president enacts the restrictions he is considering on Americans returning from abroad then international travel will be utterly finished and the tsa numbers will be domestic only.
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
If the president enacts the restrictions he is considering on Americans returning from abroad then international travel will be utterly finished and the tsa numbers will be domestic only.
And I’m not sure there would be a discernible difference. I think it is pretty clear that containment of this virus is breaking down worldwide, if we ever did really ever have it.
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Originally Posted by pangolin
If the president enacts the restrictions he is considering on Americans returning from abroad then international travel will be utterly finished and the tsa numbers will be domestic only.

Have you got a link to that one?
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Old 08-11-2020, 05:48 PM
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Have you got a link to that one?
https://thepointsguy.com/news/report...urning-to-u-s/
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