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Old 03-06-2021, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bottlen0se
I don’t know. A lot of doomers here will tell you that’s a fluke, the industry is dead forever and you are clueless.

But I agree with you.
Shouldve listened to my mom and became a doctor or a lawyer..

Can’t wait to see packed airports again!
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
Another 1.1 Million yesterday. I think it’s about to get very very real the next 2 weeks all the way through Labor Day. I think it is absolutely going to surprise some folks.

Millions put off spring/summer plans last year, and I believe even without a vaccine a vast majority weren’t going to do that again 2 years in a row. Now throw in vaccine rolling out, diminishing cases - it’s gonna be WILD.

I agree with you here.

So I asked a family yesterday at the gate how they were doing and got a really great answer. The family traveling stated that they are great! Their parents/grandparents had all been vaccinated and that they felt that they could travel again without the fear of getting their loved ones sick. They also were planning on getting a shot when it was available to them, probably late 30s early 40s couple with 4 kids.

I think we are really looking good for a big pop in numbers. Just anecdotal, but had my first 100% full flight since last year, yesterday. To CLE.
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Old 03-07-2021, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bottlen0se
Feb 25th: 1,051,149

48.6% of 2019

Not bad for a random Thursday in Feb.

This industry is dead though according to some. No recovery ever. You watch. /sarcasm
June.

My guess is we’ll see Europe/Canada begin to open up in June, based on vaccination tempo.

Assuming inflation doesn’t scuttle the US economy, we’ll see an uptick of international flying in the July/August bid packages.
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Old 03-07-2021, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by C17B74
I would be more concerned where the plateau on the business side of travel lies. People want to get out, awesome. Business is business.
Delta seems to think business travel is going to come roaring back. They have access to the data and may start hiring by the fall.
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Old 03-07-2021, 05:42 AM
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Sat 3/6 39% (prev Sat was 46%)
2wk avg 44%
1wk avg 44%
slight backslide - winter peaks were 46% & 48% respectively
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Agree. My crystal ball said since last fall, this summer will be 75%. I was told no way.
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Delta seems to think business travel is going to come roaring back. They have access to the data and may start hiring by the fall.

We’ll go from Covid desolation to Kit Darby pilot shortage by end of the year!🤣. We’ll stop arguing about masks and vaxes and go back to arguing about age 67. What a profession.

Judging by my commute TSA numbers are load factor plus just enough to get left behind.
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Old 03-07-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Delta seems to think business travel is going to come roaring back. They have access to the data and may start hiring by the fall.
I really hope your right, that sounds sweet. Wish we had the data breakdown on business specific travel in order to track significant increases and consistent load numbers. Doubt Delta would share or AA and UA for that matter.

Maybe with all the Sale/Lease signs due to large companies pulling back all year (no rent, insurance, electric, water, janitorial services, etc.) to home working environments that in itself frees up some cash for business travel. Just a thought that could make sense hence the “roaring back.” Good stuff.
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Old 03-08-2021, 03:40 AM
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1,277,719 vs 2,156,262 (2019)

59.25%. I didn’t look, but that’s probably a post pandemic record, and certainly hugely encouraging for a random Sunday in March.


Spring Break season is in no way in full swing until closer to Easter, and most public schools are back in person at least enough to prevent the family from going on a long holiday. Weather across the continent is favorable. I would love to hear which one off aberration is causing travel to be getting momentarily stronger from the pessimism crowd.

FWIW, this day in 2020 was the last day TSA numbers passed 2M. International is going to have to come back for us to do that again, so I’m guessing not this year, or at least not until November/December.
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Originally Posted by flyinthrew
1,277,719 vs 2,156,262 (2019)

59.25%. I didn’t look, but that’s probably a post pandemic record, and certainly hugely encouraging for a random Sunday in March.


Spring Break season is in no way in full swing until closer to Easter, and most public schools are back in person at least enough to prevent the family from going on a long holiday. Weather across the continent is favorable. I would love to hear which one off aberration is causing travel to be getting momentarily stronger from the pessimism crowd.

FWIW, this day in 2020 was the last day TSA numbers passed 2M. International is going to have to come back for us to do that again, so I’m guessing not this year, or at least not until November/December.

Looking at the TSA data since March started it looks like it is off day, like it somehow didn’t account for leap year last year.

I know that travel falls off a cliff starting with March 2020 data, but reviewing this last week I can clearly see Tuesday/Wednesday numbers and then what seems to be obvious Friday/Saturday numbers. That lines up with the trend lines for 2019 data too.

I can’t wait to see 1000% pax numbers in a couple weeks!
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