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01-28-2021, 07:50 AM
#1971
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Are vaccinated individuals exempt from the testing requirements? What is acceptable proof of vaccination? Do the recently vaccinated test positive on any test? International travel just took a huge gut punch to recovery. Nobody wants to leave with testing uncertainly.
01-28-2021, 09:31 AM
#1972
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Vaccinated people are not exempt from testing requirement because there is a good chance( we don't know yet but studies are underway) that even after vaccination you can still spread the virus. These vaccines prevent disease not infection. The vaccine will not cause a false positive on any tests required to travel. Those tests look for viral RNA not antibodies.
01-28-2021, 09:34 AM
#1973
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Vaccinated people are not exempt from testing requirement because there is a good chance( we don't know yet but studies are underway) that even after vaccination you can still spread the virus. These vaccines prevent disease not infection. The vaccine will not cause a false positive on any tests required to travel. Those tests look for viral RNA not antibodies.
01-28-2021, 09:47 AM
#1974
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Vaccinated people are not exempt from testing requirement because there is a good chance( we don't know yet but studies are underway) that even after vaccination you can still spread the virus. These vaccines prevent disease not infection. The vaccine will not cause a false positive on any tests required to travel. Those tests look for viral RNA not antibodies.
01-28-2021, 09:56 AM
#1975
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What is true?
There is not yet definitive scientific evidence that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer & Moderna prevent transmission. This is not the same thing as "vaccines don't prevent transmission". Because there is not yet definitive scientific evidence the mRNA vaccines prevent transmission, scientists are recommending mitigations be continued until that can fact be definitively established.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Stage 3 trials only looked for symptomatic cases and disease severity in the vaccinated cohort, not asymptomatic infection OR transmission. That being said, most vaccines do in fact prevent transmission AND observations from Israel's vaccination campaign support such a result from Pfizer & Moderna vaccines.
01-28-2021, 10:40 AM
#1976
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Even if you can still spread it, it's very likely it will be for a shorter duration with a much lower concentration so a vaccinated person will be a much lower contagion threat.
Probably incorrect. Moderna observed about a 2/3 reduction in transmission during their clinical trials. This assessment was not the purpose of the trial, so there weren't rigorous controls but it was a very large trial so it probably wasn't some random fluke. It will be verified one way or another soon enough.
That's correct.
01-28-2021, 06:02 PM
#1977
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Is the R0 the same as with people without a vaccination? How does the virus go away if that was the case?
01-28-2021, 06:57 PM
#1978
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But it's pretty unlikely that vaccinated people will do much spreading. A little perhaps, but not much.
01-28-2021, 07:05 PM
#1979
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R0 is already clearly in free fall in America. Combinations of vaccination and plain old immunity due to having been sick are kicking in hard. You know, herd immunity. Everybody is trapped indoors in the cold states and new cases are still falling. The dual specters of exotic new variations and people being able to spread infection like wildfire after full vaccination are just like every other ghost story. There’s a minor, fleeting, possible grain of truth in there, but they’re just meant to capture peoples morbid interest around the campfire.
My fingers are crossed that negative tests for domestic flights are in that same bucket, but I can’t tell.
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