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12-03-2020, 06:41 PM
#1631
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I don’t know the exact numbers, but been in Florida all my life. I’d bet that a large portion of those deaths are from the elderly that go there to retire.
They don’t want to end up like California (I’ll leave it at that) so that’s why they’re doing it the way they are. I actually appreciate how they’re going about it. Small government is awesome.
They don’t want to end up like California (I’ll leave it at that) so that’s why they’re doing it the way they are. I actually appreciate how they’re going about it. Small government is awesome.
lived in both. I’ll take California for the ocean mountains and desert all day every day. Florida was flat and boring outside of the ocean. Mostly old people in the summer and can’t be outside unless your at the beach. Never really lived anywhere for political reasons.
12-03-2020, 07:29 PM
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12-03-2020, 08:57 PM
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The navy ship was never planned to handle COVID patients. There were many other reasons people were in the hospital, even with deferrals of some surgeries. (Indeed, today, most patients in hospitals are not there with COVID. I hear numbers today of 15% of hospital patients have COVID.)
It was there (as was the army MASH unit hospital set up in Madison Square Garden), to handle the non-COVID patients.
That would allow the bulk of the hospital beds in the hospitals themselves to focus on handling COVID patients. Thankfully, the request of the New York Governor, with a response of the ship and the MASH unit by the President, were not needed. But it was good they worked in consort, and were prepared if they had been needed.
12-03-2020, 09:04 PM
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Allow me to share the other half of the story.
The navy ship was never planned to handle COVID patients. There were many other reasons people were in the hospital, even with deferrals of some surgeries. (Indeed, today, most patients in hospitals are not there with COVID. I hear numbers today of 15% of hospital patients have COVID.)
It was there (as was the army MASH unit hospital set up in Madison Square Garden), to handle the non-COVID patients.
That would allow the bulk of the hospital beds in the hospitals themselves to focus on handling COVID patients. Thankfully, the request of the New York Governor, with a response of the ship and the MASH unit by the President, were not needed. But it was good they worked in consort, and were prepared if they had been needed.
The navy ship was never planned to handle COVID patients. There were many other reasons people were in the hospital, even with deferrals of some surgeries. (Indeed, today, most patients in hospitals are not there with COVID. I hear numbers today of 15% of hospital patients have COVID.)
It was there (as was the army MASH unit hospital set up in Madison Square Garden), to handle the non-COVID patients.
That would allow the bulk of the hospital beds in the hospitals themselves to focus on handling COVID patients. Thankfully, the request of the New York Governor, with a response of the ship and the MASH unit by the President, were not needed. But it was good they worked in consort, and were prepared if they had been needed.
One of the difficult things about COVID and overcrowding is the length of stay. I have a friend who's father was admitted on November 4th. He passed away yesterday. The stress is not only emotional, but it's also logistical. These are long, drawn out battles that take weeks to resolve in some cases. There's just not enough space to handle them all because the turnover is so slow.
12-03-2020, 09:21 PM
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Thank you for this context. It's easy to read about it in the paper, much harder to face it in-person everyday.
One of the difficult things about COVID and overcrowding is the length of stay. I have a friend who's father was admitted on November 4th. He passed away yesterday. The stress is not only emotional, but it's also logistical. These are long, drawn out battles that take weeks to resolve in some cases. There's just not enough space to handle them all because the turnover is so slow.
One of the difficult things about COVID and overcrowding is the length of stay. I have a friend who's father was admitted on November 4th. He passed away yesterday. The stress is not only emotional, but it's also logistical. These are long, drawn out battles that take weeks to resolve in some cases. There's just not enough space to handle them all because the turnover is so slow.
A 91 year old woman from the church also was admitted, recently. She was in ICU, and on a ventilator, for a week. She improved, and now is in rehab to build her strength before going back home.
In other years, elderly and persons in poor health that I know have had the flu and pneumonia, they passed away from them. These things happen. Tragic, but they take a toll in loss of life.
12-03-2020, 09:29 PM
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I don’t know the exact numbers, but been in Florida all my life. I’d bet that a large portion of those deaths are from the elderly that go there to retire.
They don’t want to end up like California (I’ll leave it at that) so that’s why they’re doing it the way they are. I actually appreciate how they’re going about it. Small government is awesome.
They don’t want to end up like California (I’ll leave it at that) so that’s why they’re doing it the way they are. I actually appreciate how they’re going about it. Small government is awesome.
12-03-2020, 09:56 PM
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Though to say that mandatory lockdowns are necessary is bogus. When their leaders don’t obey their own orders, people lose respect and the sense of urgency/importance in the matter (to a certain degree anyways). Sorry, but I don’t buy their way of governance.
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