LoneStar32

ohh, that's right. Orange man bad. I forgot. Any way, so if the ship was not equipped to handle COVID patients (who was really in the beginning) how come there was no need to use it for non-COVID patients to make room in the hospitals for those with COVID? You know, because they were projected to be over capacity and all

GateAgent007

Like I said, educate yourself. It's not that hard. Well maybe it is for you.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/n...s-comfort.html

You know what's hilarious about this whole thing? Is that you're complaining that all the extra field hospital space went unused in April. You know what stopped the outbreak from getting that bad? LOCKDOWNS. You are proving my point in the most ignorant way possible.

LoneStar32

lol, the New York Times taking something the administration did and trying to paint it in a bad light. Color me surprised. I am sure you have this stuff you found on Reddit saved up in bookmark folders for your internet arguments.

The fact is that New York never reached capacity therefore there was really no need for the Hospital ship Coumo screamed about. I guess we can thank him for sticking all those infected people into nursing homes killing massive of people before they had a chance to make it to one. Now lets give him an Emmy!

GateAgent007

Hey. Do me a favor. Can you tell me how many people died as a result of that nursing home snafu? It's terrible, to be sure. But you guys bring it up so often, it must be a lot. How many was it?

LoneStar32

Should we contribute every death to COVID like a lot of Blue state hospitals did in the beginning, or those who really died of COVID? I don't know, how did Reddit and other liberal outlets spin it?

GateAgent007

You sure don't.

LoneStar32

Wow, it was just a "snafu" to you? wow, just wow

See, two can play at your game.

ACEssXfer

https://www.propublica.org/article/n...ed-in-new-york

GateAgent007

Hey at least you get partial credit for trying. But you still didn't answer my question. Let's review, maybe you'll learn something.

6,500 COVID deaths occurred in NY state nursing homes during the initial outbreak. 6,400 asymptomatic COVID+ patients were transferred to facilities during that time. They were isolated in those facilities and they did their best to keep them clear of non COVID residents.

Initial CDC guidance said that there was no asymptomatic spread. During the crisis, nursing home workers were encouraged to come to work if they only had mild or no symptoms. Studies have shown that this was a fatal mistake.

The transfer of patients was not the primary cause of those 6,500 deaths. It was the fact that we didn't know that asymptomatic spread from nursing home workers was as dangerous as it is.

Let me be clear, it's all tragic. But you want to hang this around the neck of Cuomo when you don't have the facts. And that just makes you a political hack.

furloughfuntime

This is what bad faith argument looks like.

You made a point about the Comfort being underutilized, and then someone else added factual context to that point which explained why the Comfort could not realistically be used due to bureaucratic snafus.

Then you proceed to pivot to crying about media bias:

The pivot to crying about the fake news media. The point you introduced was okay, until factual context was added that undercut your argument. The weird thing is, the excerpt you responded to can't really be called biased. It's literally just a set of facts assembled in sentences and paragraphs. No opinion. No spin. Do you think facts are biased?

(The other weird thing is Trump himself isn't specifically mentioned as responsible for the policy. Rather, it's a policy by the Navy which appears to be the hangup. Nevertheless, you rush to defend Trump even when he himself isn't specifically implicated in the issue. He's not even specifically criticized, and yet you rush to his defense? Why are you guys so reflexively defensive of him? You have a real weird complex that I only think I'd understand if I joined a cult.)

And the chef's kiss cherry on top of it all? Whataboutism. Every point you make is refuted, so you change the terms of the argument and pivot to unrelated and widely debunked topics that have already been refuted a dozen times, thus repeating the cycle. If you can't win an argument, just keep pivoting between the same set of falsehoods again and again until you tire them out. Classic.

I still don't know if you're a troll or just a moron, but I do know that I have pity for you.