TSA Numbers
10-13-2020, 10:52 AM
#991
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nobody start high-fiving each other and start looking at Corvettes or bass boats. We are still a decade behind in pax levels if we are using TSA numbers as a guide. The numbers need to start cracking 40% consistently, sans holiday weekends, and maybe we can start thawing champagne.
Furloughs (or threat of more furloughs) will be a justifiable option if next Summer is not looking good, and we start heading into the slower 2021 Fall period.
Part of me thinks the reason G. Kelley is in such a rush to get a concession vote through is he sees the data, and maybe wants to squeeze anything he can out of the SWA pilots before things take an obvious positive turn. I think management, just like pilots, sees the 1 million mark as a very significant milestone. And no doubt they see the obvious WoW increases from the 90k low in March, up until now.
When this thread first started we were talking about 100k pax... It has been a slower than anticipated increase. However, when you look at recent weeks, we have basically blown through 600,700, and 800k on certain travel days.
If the gov't can get their sh!t together and pass a stimulus, that will no doubt be airline friendly, we'll buy 6 more months of time. Our starting point will be 1 million passengers vs. 100k in the April stimulus.
Based on past "life altering crisis" that experts said we would never recover from. As time passes, these things are occurring:
1) People realize that the virus fear mongering went overboard. Thank you MSM and social media.
2) After the election, CNN will probably take down their all-day-every -day Covid banner.
3) Covid fatigue and not giving a sh!t anymore.
4)Vaccine, for those who will take it. (not me)
5) Businesses and places like Disney will open further with less restrictions.
6) Certain Governors in certain States
will cancel their proclomations after Nov. 3rd.7) Spike or no spike, people are over this sh!t
10-14-2020, 04:13 AM
#994
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as has been stated ad nauseum, it's purely a race against time to get as close to 2018/19 numbers as we can, by the springtime. With furlough effectiveness basically being a 12-18 month cost effective tool, next summer will be a make or break period.
Furloughs (or threat of more furloughs) will be a justifiable option if next summer is not looking good, and we start heading into the slower 2021 fall period.
Part of me thinks the reason g. Kelley is in such a rush to get a concession vote through is he sees the data, and maybe wants to squeeze anything he can out of the swa pilots before things take an obvious positive turn. I think management, just like pilots, sees the 1 million mark as a very significant milestone. And no doubt they see the obvious wow increases from the 90k low in march, up until now.
When this thread first started we were talking about 100k pax... It has been a slower than anticipated increase. However, when you look at recent weeks, we have basically blown through 600,700, and 800k on certain travel days.
If the gov't can get their sh!t together and pass a stimulus, that will no doubt be airline friendly, we'll buy 6 more months of time. Our starting point will be 1 million passengers vs. 100k in the april stimulus.
Based on past "life altering crisis" that experts said we would never recover from. As time passes, these things are occurring:
1) people realize that the virus fear mongering went overboard. Thank you msm and social media.
2) after the election, cnn will probably take down their all-day-every -day covid banner.
3) covid fatigue and not giving a sh!t anymore.
4)vaccine, for those who will take it. (not me)
5) businesses and places like disney will open further with less restrictions.
6) certain governors in certain states Will cancel their proclomations after nov. 3rd.
7) spike or no spike, people are over this sh!t
Furloughs (or threat of more furloughs) will be a justifiable option if next summer is not looking good, and we start heading into the slower 2021 fall period.
Part of me thinks the reason g. Kelley is in such a rush to get a concession vote through is he sees the data, and maybe wants to squeeze anything he can out of the swa pilots before things take an obvious positive turn. I think management, just like pilots, sees the 1 million mark as a very significant milestone. And no doubt they see the obvious wow increases from the 90k low in march, up until now.
When this thread first started we were talking about 100k pax... It has been a slower than anticipated increase. However, when you look at recent weeks, we have basically blown through 600,700, and 800k on certain travel days.
If the gov't can get their sh!t together and pass a stimulus, that will no doubt be airline friendly, we'll buy 6 more months of time. Our starting point will be 1 million passengers vs. 100k in the april stimulus.
Based on past "life altering crisis" that experts said we would never recover from. As time passes, these things are occurring:
1) people realize that the virus fear mongering went overboard. Thank you msm and social media.
2) after the election, cnn will probably take down their all-day-every -day covid banner.
3) covid fatigue and not giving a sh!t anymore.
4)vaccine, for those who will take it. (not me)
5) businesses and places like disney will open further with less restrictions.
6) certain governors in certain states
Will cancel their proclomations after nov. 3rd.7) spike or no spike, people are over this sh!t
10-14-2020, 10:13 AM
#997
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,342
As has been stated ad nauseum, it's purely a race against time to get as close to 2018/19 numbers as we can, by the Springtime. With furlough effectiveness basically being a 12-18 month cost effective tool, next summer will be a make or break period.
Furloughs (or threat of more furloughs) will be a justifiable option if next Summer is not looking good, and we start heading into the slower 2021 Fall period.
Part of me thinks the reason G. Kelley is in such a rush to get a concession vote through is he sees the data, and maybe wants to squeeze anything he can out of the SWA pilots before things take an obvious positive turn. I think management, just like pilots, sees the 1 million mark as a very significant milestone. And no doubt they see the obvious WoW increases from the 90k low in March, up until now.
When this thread first started we were talking about 100k pax... It has been a slower than anticipated increase. However, when you look at recent weeks, we have basically blown through 600,700, and 800k on certain travel days.
If the gov't can get their sh!t together and pass a stimulus, that will no doubt be airline friendly, we'll buy 6 more months of time. Our starting point will be 1 million passengers vs. 100k in the April stimulus.
Based on past "life altering crisis" that experts said we would never recover from. As time passes, these things are occurring:
1) People realize that the virus fear mongering went overboard. Thank you MSM and social media.
2) After the election, CNN will probably take down their all-day-every -day Covid banner.
3) Covid fatigue and not giving a sh!t anymore.
4)Vaccine, for those who will take it. (not me)
5) Businesses and places like Disney will open further with less restrictions.
6) Certain Governors in certain States will cancel their proclomations after Nov. 3rd.
7) Spike or no spike, people are over this sh!t
Furloughs (or threat of more furloughs) will be a justifiable option if next Summer is not looking good, and we start heading into the slower 2021 Fall period.
Part of me thinks the reason G. Kelley is in such a rush to get a concession vote through is he sees the data, and maybe wants to squeeze anything he can out of the SWA pilots before things take an obvious positive turn. I think management, just like pilots, sees the 1 million mark as a very significant milestone. And no doubt they see the obvious WoW increases from the 90k low in March, up until now.
When this thread first started we were talking about 100k pax... It has been a slower than anticipated increase. However, when you look at recent weeks, we have basically blown through 600,700, and 800k on certain travel days.
If the gov't can get their sh!t together and pass a stimulus, that will no doubt be airline friendly, we'll buy 6 more months of time. Our starting point will be 1 million passengers vs. 100k in the April stimulus.
Based on past "life altering crisis" that experts said we would never recover from. As time passes, these things are occurring:
1) People realize that the virus fear mongering went overboard. Thank you MSM and social media.
2) After the election, CNN will probably take down their all-day-every -day Covid banner.
3) Covid fatigue and not giving a sh!t anymore.
4)Vaccine, for those who will take it. (not me)
5) Businesses and places like Disney will open further with less restrictions.
6) Certain Governors in certain States
will cancel their proclomations after Nov. 3rd.7) Spike or no spike, people are over this sh!t
10-14-2020, 10:41 AM
#998
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,222
All the election will do is alter the narrative. If Trump wins the headlines will continue to blame him for everything and how many lives are being lost, despite the fact that most Covid related decisions are at the state and local level. If Biden wins, they will take the same data and show how things are dramatically improving under his leadership. One thing that I find entertaining is to read the same story from sources like Fox News and MSNBC. Today’s journalism isn’t reporting the news, it’s a sales pitch.
The stimulus that'll save a bunch of airline jobs is being used as a political tool also. Pelosi doesn't want Trump to get any positive credit for helping anyone. In 20+ days, no matter who wins, things should atleast start to improve for us airline people.
At this point I really don't care who wins as long as the media stops with the fear headlines, States open up and the airlines get 6 months of breathing room.
10-14-2020, 03:27 PM
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