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Old 06-22-2020, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Anson Harris
I don't necessarily disagree with you, just pointing out that the fear exists even in those who have no reason to be fearful.
All because COVID doesn't kill you, doesn't mean it's not going to kick your ass. Who wants to willingly sign up for a 30 day hospital stay on a vent?

Not me.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:15 PM
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For what it's worth our Vegas flights have been mostly full since they opened the casinos back. And I mean actually full since we don't artificially cap flights anymore after mandating masks.
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Old 06-23-2020, 01:50 AM
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Are they flying?
Saw a KIA ad on tv where it said “ we don’t know how long it will be before we see the earth from 35,000 ft .... let’s go on a road trip”.
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
All because COVID doesn't kill you, doesn't mean it's not going to kick your ass. Who wants to willingly sign up for a 30 day hospital stay on a vent?

Not me.
The overwhelming majority of pilots I know that have had it (including me) have had symptoms that aren't even as significant as a cold.

Unless you are an obese senior citizen I think your "30 day hospital stay on a vent" is exceedingly unlikely, especially now that there has been significant progress with antiviral and steroid treatments to reduce the severity for those that do have a severe immune reaction.

Hypochondria and symptom amplification is pervasive these days. Perhaps the damage you are doing to yourself from your fear is worse than the virus itself?

The most recent iFR from the CDC was 0.26% and it is probably even less than that now with the increase in positive cases and the decrease in fatalities. Texas had 10 COVID deaths yesterday in a state with close to 29 million people, 6 of those deaths were people in long-term care facilities. For a state that has a "surge" you are much more likely to die in a car accident in Texas than you are from COVID.

And before you say it, I know...but what about the long term consequences we don't know about? What about the 2nd wave? To those that say those things I say you are wasting your life away.
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:38 AM
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If you're under 50, it is at least an order of magnitude less than the .26%
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Are they flying?
No, I think they will walk across the country! 😉
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Old 06-23-2020, 04:07 AM
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
The overwhelming majority of pilots I know that have had it (including me) have had symptoms that aren't even as significant as a cold.

Unless you are an obese senior citizen I think your "30 day hospital stay on a vent" is exceedingly unlikely, especially now that there has been significant progress with antiviral and steroid treatments to reduce the severity for those that do have a severe immune reaction.

Hypochondria and symptom amplification is pervasive these days. Perhaps the damage you are doing to yourself from your fear is worse than the virus itself?

The most recent iFR from the CDC was 0.26% and it is probably even less than that now with the increase in positive cases and the decrease in fatalities. Texas had 10 COVID deaths yesterday in a state with close to 29 million people, 6 of those deaths were people in long-term care facilities. For a state that has a "surge" you are much more likely to die in a car accident in Texas than you are from COVID.

And before you say it, I know...but what about the long term consequences we don't know about? What about the 2nd wave? To those that say those things I say you are wasting your life away.
Well said. Thank you.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NutCase
All because COVID doesn't kill you, doesn't mean it's not going to kick your ass. Who wants to willingly sign up for a 30 day hospital stay on a vent?

Not me.
You really need to stay under your bed.

Unless you’ve got significant health issues or are a nursing home patient, 99%+ of positive cases never see a hospital, let alone a vent. I speak from experience as I am “recovering” right now. Some sinus issues and a slight fever for 2 days and then I was back up and going. Not even remotely the worst “head cold” that I’ve ever suffered.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:38 AM
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Yep, open. It.the. F. Up!

ignore all the top infectious disease experts because a guy on the internet had it and he was fine. Plus another guy on the internet threw out some inane statistics with no citation.

for the record I’m not pro lock down or pro open it up.

Whatever happened to a measured reopening while taking prudent precautions (limit occupancy, testing requirements, masks, disinfecting protocols) based on infection rates and other metics? why can’t we have that?
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