TSA numbers above 100k seven days in row
06-20-2020, 02:25 PM
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lets return to helpful / useful info please regarding the TSA numbers. I am guilty also of the drift.
lets return to helpful / useful info please regarding the TSA numbers. I am guilty also of the drift.
06-20-2020, 02:59 PM
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I have yet to see a single study that says we can “stagnate or burn out” a virus for which we have no vaccine through social distancing. Social distancing only delays the inevitable. Keeping the spread at a rate which allows for adequate medical care while maximizing infections is our best bet since we don’t have a vaccine. Social distancing only delays the inevitable, but we don’t do anything in a vacuum. In Fresno, ER doctors are seeing very few COVID patients, but have seen a spike in suicide-related injuries as well as patients that have waited too long to come in for emergent health issues. This often results in unfavorable outcomes. The more people get infected now—without overwhelming the system—the smaller any “second wave” will be in the future.
The general consensus is ~65% of the population needs to contract COVID for it to burn out. Multiply 330 million by .65. That’s the number. We either get there or we get a vaccine. Those are the only options. If we shut down the country to slow the rate at which we arrive at 215 million, we have to consider the second-order effects such as suicide and more negative outcomes of non-COVID disease.
The general consensus is ~65% of the population needs to contract COVID for it to burn out. Multiply 330 million by .65. That’s the number. We either get there or we get a vaccine. Those are the only options. If we shut down the country to slow the rate at which we arrive at 215 million, we have to consider the second-order effects such as suicide and more negative outcomes of non-COVID disease.
06-20-2020, 04:02 PM
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I was replying to a person who said
“it’s done, it’s over, move on”
I think it’s far from over.
the orange man is assembling 100,000 people, many of which will enter a closed space to have a political rally. Those are his actions.
Just the other day in an interview he stated that he still thinks China let the virus out as a way to punish him personally. Those are his words.
Other state, county, and local officials refuse to implement or enforce basic precautions. Some have sited the hoaxiness as their reasoning.
“it’s done, it’s over, move on”
I think it’s far from over.
the orange man is assembling 100,000 people, many of which will enter a closed space to have a political rally. Those are his actions.
Just the other day in an interview he stated that he still thinks China let the virus out as a way to punish him personally. Those are his words.
Other state, county, and local officials refuse to implement or enforce basic precautions. Some have sited the hoaxiness as their reasoning.
Next two paragraphs....dont know what more to say, just to be clear that I'm definitely not defending the POTUS on a number of things either.
Second bolded, cant speak specifically for that large and nebulous of a crowd. Perhaps some have made those references. I wont outright dispute that....especially at the beginning of March when chaos really set in.....but perhaps some said so more in reference to conflicting data and advice? My main point is that very very largely the powers that be know covid is indeed real now, just what response to take.
06-20-2020, 06:33 PM
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The guy that predicted the last couple of downturns said this is going to be the biggest he’s seen. 5 year recovery.
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