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Old 06-17-2020, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
LAX and Orlando travel ticked up then kind of flat:

https://www.radarbox.com/statistics/airports/KMCO

https://www.radarbox.com/statistics/airports/KLAX

Las Vegas travel picking up: https://www.radarbox.com/statistics/airports/KLAS

maybe "adult leisure" is coming back before "family/kids leisure"

JFK seems dead still: https://www.radarbox.com/statistics/airports/KJFK

Well Disney still isn’t open yet so not surprising really for MCO.

Families go to universal as an afterthought on their Disney vacation.

Have you checked the more beach type vacation spots? I read Airbnb bookings were way up for June as July.


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Old 06-17-2020, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Well Disney still isn’t open yet so not surprising really for MCO.

Families go to universal as an afterthought on their Disney vacation.

Have you checked the more beach type vacation spots? I read Airbnb bookings were way up for June as July.

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numbers should be ticking higher once Disney/etc. open
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:40 PM
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I agree with a lot of the posts. Many flights out of cities are running “covid full”. Until flights are added, we won’t necessarily see higher numbers of pax showing up. I tried to get out of town the other day and gave up after the 3rd flight with nonrevs being left behind.
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Old 06-18-2020, 01:54 AM
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Was “Covid capped” on a 200 seat plane going to SJU the other day.
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Old 06-18-2020, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
Take that, “experts”!
Well it’s still unsustainable and firmly in industry fail territory. It bumped above 20 pct of last year briefly but it’s been hovering steadily in the 15 pct range for a while. We are no where near out of the woods and as this disease peaks again we are in for more pain.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Well it’s still unsustainable and firmly in industry fail territory. It bumped above 20 pct of last year briefly but it’s been hovering steadily in the 15 pct range for a while. We are no where near out of the woods and as this disease peaks again we are in for more pain.
Again. The stagnation is deceiving because I believe it’s capped by capacity. When flights start coming back (especially in July) the numbers will rise fairly rapidly.
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse
Again. The stagnation is deceiving because I believe it’s capped by capacity. When flights start coming back (especially in July) the numbers will rise fairly rapidly.
I wish it was a capacity cap issue but it’s not. Flying in at about 50 pct prior to covid but is servicing 20 pct. The issue is with where the demand is coming back and that it’s uneven.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
I wish it was a capacity cap issue but it’s not. Flying in at about 50 pct prior to covid but is servicing 20 pct. The issue is with where the demand is coming back and that it’s uneven.
Well, it’s pretty clear that even the airlines themselves are using different strategies. AA seems to be betting on an early comeback - perhaps because with their debt load they are screwed anyway if it doesn’t happen - while the other legacies look like they are planning a ‘shrink to profitability strategy. SWA seems to be betting that by increasing flying they can grab domestic market share. NK and F9 seem to have the same idea, but hedging their bets a little since they don’t have the deep pockets of SWA.

Gonna be interesting for sure...
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Well it’s still unsustainable and firmly in industry fail territory. It bumped above 20 pct of last year briefly but it’s been hovering steadily in the 15 pct range for a while. We are no where near out of the woods and as this disease peaks again we are in for more pain.
Nah, pangolin. The experts said no masks, masks! But not that kind of mask! The experts said 3-5 years to recover. Planes are being unparked. The experts said 70,000 would die in California alone. We’re at a possibly extremely fudged 2000 deaths. I’ve been flying full airbi all month. Obviously, it isn’t a great time in the industry. Thanks for the reminder! The usual posters and I in this thread are just saying things (so far) have been MUCH better than the “experts” originally told us. That’s all. I know you’re scared, little pangolin pal but let’s count our blessings.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
Nah, pangolin. The experts said no masks, masks! But not that kind of mask! The experts said 3-5 years to recover. Planes are being unparked. The experts said 70,000 would die in California alone. We’re at a possibly extremely fudged 2000 deaths. I’ve been flying full airbi all month. Obviously, it isn’t a great time in the industry. Thanks for the reminder! The usual posters and I in this thread are just saying things (so far) have been MUCH better than the “experts” originally told us. That’s all. I know you’re scared, little pangolin pal but let’s count our blessings.
Lol - I'm not scared. Nothing is tougher than a pangolin. I'm just being realistic.
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