kingairfun

Solving the fear factor is about the only thing it would truly do effectively. Which is about all we need considering the level of truly influential people in the US who would believe everything they see on the "View".


Vaccines for Corona viruses (specifically flu vaccines) are at best 60% effective any given year. And in the worst strands roughly 12%..

Forget where I read that info, may have been a CDC report or something similar.

Tony Clifton

But this was before the days of 24 hour sensationalist doom-and-gloom media. They do truly have the power to send millions into a quivering fetal position. It’ll only be ok and safe to travel when the media tells everyone it is. Sadly.

Neverthless, best wishes for all of my friends at the pax airlines. I went through a furlough after 12 years at what I thought was my “career” job during the Great Recession. My company subsequently ceased operations. It looked beyond grim at times but things do get better.

velosnow

I'm no fan of the 24 hours news cycle. But...

You don't think the newspapers of the day didn't do the same? Sensationalism isn't new.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/pic...ic/5082046002/

I also didn't realize it was the media who instituted stay at home orders and not the governments.

OpMidClimax

Seasonal Influenza virus efficacy varies year to year and region to region. Various influenza virus usually mutate rapidly and many times the virus comes from an unexpected region. The vaccine for next season is actually being finalized now and production is being planned. The vaccine is a guess based on what has been seen in the rest of the world and what strain may hit the USA. Sometimes if close and sometimes its a strike out, such as H1N1. Sometimes the guess is right, but by the time the strain hits the USA it has mutated and the antibodies we developed through the vaccine are not effective. The most important part of receiving the flu vaccine every year is you develop cross resistance to various strains and studies prove your immune system is a little ramped up for when things go south.

There is no approved vaccine for any corona virus yet. Influenza virus is not corona virus. Influenza virus's are relatively simple RNA strands that stick together.

Coronavirusss have a spherical or pleomorphic enveloped particles containing single-stranded (positive-sense) RNA associated with a nucleoprotein within a capsid comprised of matrix protein. The envelope bears club-shaped glycoprotein projections. Coronaviruses (and toroviruses) are classified together on the basis of the crown or halo-like appearance of the envelope glycoproteins, and on characteristic features of chemistry and replication. Reference [Medical Microbiology. 4th edition. Baron S, editor.Galveston (TX): University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston; 1996.]

Solving the fear factor is the most critical thing.. way beyond my moral, ethical, philosophical head to get around. I am not that smart.. There are many people that are risk averse. I still have a close friend that refuses to fly after 9/11.

Personally I fall in the middle. I know the risks, probably more than average bear. I still go do certain things, but also avoid things that I know would give me a greater chance of infection or spreading to others. I also know how to properly gown and de-gown with sterile technique, helping to limit my transmission. I also live in a place with a relatively high viral penetration that is very dense in population that relies on mass transportation. If I lived somewhere else in the USA, my personal assessment would be different. I am waiting on an antibody test to see if I was exposed, appointment soon.

Tony Clifton

Sensationalism, yes. But you can’t compare 24 hour/day non-stop tv/Internet “coverage” to a daily newspaper. Reference my mother-in-law who now watches about 16 hours/day of non-stop news and is quite literally shaking in fear - convinced half the population is going to die. She has zero moments per day that she isn’t bombarded with this stuff. Newspapers didn’t do that.

My point being, even if governors lifted all restrictions today - if the media continues to hype the “dangers” of airline travel (or any public activity),many won’t fly (Cue the non-stop animated loop of the virus circulating through the cabin after someone sneezes). Airline travel won’t return until the media moves on to some other 24 hour/day “disaster”.

velosnow

Fair point and I wish people would just ignore the bulk if not all TV 'news'. Most of it is pure crap and filled full of moronic talking heads with their worthless opinions.
I do take issue with broad brush attacks on 'the media' ala POTUS' war on the free press. Unfortunately aviation in particular has long suffered from a lack of accurate reporting.

Excargodog

Karma is a female dog...

https://www.poynter.org/business-wor...e-coronavirus/

https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/conde-nast-lays-off-or-furloughs-nearly-200-staffers/

https://adage.com/article/agency-news/latest-agency-layoffs-and-furlough-measures-response-pandemic/2250446


Perhaps the media can do a little research in their spare time on something the military calls ‘Danger Close.’

Tom Bradys Cat

Quite the list. I wonder who owns thema nd who they are affiliated with.

I wondered a while back what these peanut media pundits were thinking when they spread fear.....no thought that their actions, not matter how small, in the pursuit of the dollar would lead to their own demise. Nuts.

Excargodog

Unfortunately, a lot of non-combatants are taking collateral damage:

https://spectator.us/lives-vs-lives-...cost-lockdown/

Peter Peterlini

Yet again Rick is convincing. I wish it weren’t so but I’m afraid there are just too many headwinds for a rapid recovery. Trump is a buffoon but that doesn’t mean he was wrong when he claimed that the cure was worse than the disease.