TSA numbers above 100k seven days in row
05-15-2020, 09:11 AM
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with no clue on profit per ticket, but 60% of 2.1M is 1.26M. That is reportedly the "break even point" for carriers (using social distancing).
of course 1.26M could all fly one airline, defeating this observation, but I doubt they do that.
of course 1.26M could all fly one airline, defeating this observation, but I doubt they do that.
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05-15-2020, 09:22 AM
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Sometimes a graphic...
05-15-2020, 09:43 AM
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We lost 675,000 to the 1918-20 Spanish flu epidemic out of a population of 107 million. And strangely, it seemed to select for young healthy 20-40 year olds. Nobody came up with a vaccine or treatment for it. It was followed by.... the roaring 20s. The Great Depression a decade later was unrelated to any disease.
The US had 418,000 dead in WWII. Mostly 20-40 year olds. Out of a population of 140 million. This was followed by a post war period of economic expansion that persisted until 1973.
The issue isn’t biological. Every epidemic and pandemic eventually burns itself out.
And emotionally, people recover. Heck, the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 killed 230,000 people in a matter of hours, but people were back on the beaches in a month or two - after the bodies were gone. People are resilient.
But the damage we have self-inflicted on the world economy. That I agree is going to be a problem.
The US had 418,000 dead in WWII. Mostly 20-40 year olds. Out of a population of 140 million. This was followed by a post war period of economic expansion that persisted until 1973.
The issue isn’t biological. Every epidemic and pandemic eventually burns itself out.
And emotionally, people recover. Heck, the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 killed 230,000 people in a matter of hours, but people were back on the beaches in a month or two - after the bodies were gone. People are resilient.
But the damage we have self-inflicted on the world economy. That I agree is going to be a problem.
WW1 and WW2 took many lives and long prior to the daily news cycle where every military death is instantly communicated. After WW2 was a periods of economic recession and high unemployment.
I don't understand the argument of epidemics and pandemics burn themselves out? Without a vaccine, treatment or prophylactic many diseases continue to fester. HIV, influenza, measles, malaria, polio, hepatitis, etc.. covid is no different. It's not too deadly relatively speaking but deadly enough in modern times to mess everything up. Add in news "reports" now of a small percentage of children suffering from kawasaki like illness, is only going to compound this problem.
05-15-2020, 09:53 AM
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We lost 675,000 to the 1918-20 Spanish flu epidemic out of a population of 107 million. And strangely, it seemed to select for young healthy 20-40 year olds. Nobody came up with a vaccine or treatment for it. It was followed by.... the roaring 20s. The Great Depression a decade later was unrelated to any disease.
The US had 418,000 dead in WWII. Mostly 20-40 year olds. Out of a population of 140 million. This was followed by a post war period of economic expansion that persisted until 1973.
The issue isn’t biological. Every epidemic and pandemic eventually burns itself out.
And emotionally, people recover. Heck, the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 killed 230,000 people in a matter of hours, but people were back on the beaches in a month or two - after the bodies were gone. People are resilient.
But the damage we have self-inflicted on the world economy. That I agree is going to be a problem.
The US had 418,000 dead in WWII. Mostly 20-40 year olds. Out of a population of 140 million. This was followed by a post war period of economic expansion that persisted until 1973.
The issue isn’t biological. Every epidemic and pandemic eventually burns itself out.
And emotionally, people recover. Heck, the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 killed 230,000 people in a matter of hours, but people were back on the beaches in a month or two - after the bodies were gone. People are resilient.
But the damage we have self-inflicted on the world economy. That I agree is going to be a problem.
The great depression, unrelated to any disease, lasted 4 years.
A depression, related to disease, could be very bad.
A vaccine is the only way to STOP this virus, and solve the fear factor.
my opinion
05-15-2020, 10:12 AM
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In all of the above examples, the death and damage causing event stopped / finished.
The great depression, unrelated to any disease, lasted 4 years.
A depression, related to disease, could be very bad.
A vaccine is the only way to STOP this virus, and solve the fear factor.
my opinion
The great depression, unrelated to any disease, lasted 4 years.
A depression, related to disease, could be very bad.
A vaccine is the only way to STOP this virus, and solve the fear factor.
my opinion
What about Herd immunity?
05-15-2020, 11:14 AM
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Comparing 1918 Spanish fly era to today is a stretch. Infant mortality in America was over 20 percent. Polio, whoopping cough measles, and other virus ran rampant and life expectancy and quality of life was greatly reduced. 1955 was the Salk Polio vaccine. The rabies cytotoxin by Pasteur was 1890ish or something. Young death was common. Medicine was still very crude in 1918 and vaccine and influenza understanding was not what it is today. The 1920s weren't that roaring especially after recovery of WW1. But death was common especially young death.
WW1 and WW2 took many lives and long prior to the daily news cycle where every military death is instantly communicated. After WW2 was a periods of economic recession and high unemployment.
I don't understand the argument of epidemics and pandemics burn themselves out? Without a vaccine, treatment or prophylactic many diseases continue to fester. HIV, influenza, measles, malaria, polio, hepatitis, etc.. covid is no different. It's not too deadly relatively speaking but deadly enough in modern times to mess everything up. Add in news "reports" now of a small percentage of children suffering from kawasaki like illness, is only going to compound this problem.
WW1 and WW2 took many lives and long prior to the daily news cycle where every military death is instantly communicated. After WW2 was a periods of economic recession and high unemployment.
I don't understand the argument of epidemics and pandemics burn themselves out? Without a vaccine, treatment or prophylactic many diseases continue to fester. HIV, influenza, measles, malaria, polio, hepatitis, etc.. covid is no different. It's not too deadly relatively speaking but deadly enough in modern times to mess everything up. Add in news "reports" now of a small percentage of children suffering from kawasaki like illness, is only going to compound this problem.
Spanish FLY era? LOL
Polio occurred intermittently for hundreds of years. The Human race pressed on. People continue to get HIV:
An estimated 1.1 million people in the United Statesa had HIV at the end of 2016, the most recent year for which this information is available. Of those people, about 14%, or 1 in 7, did not know they had HIV
In 2018, 37,832 people received an HIV diagnosis in the United States and dependent areas.a The annual number of new diagnoses decreased 9% from 2010 to 2016 in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
a American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, the Republic of Palau, and the US Virgin Islands.
In 2018, 37,832 people received an HIV diagnosis in the United States and dependent areas.a The annual number of new diagnoses decreased 9% from 2010 to 2016 in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
a American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, the Republic of Palau, and the US Virgin Islands.
- CDC Fact Sheet: HIV in the United States
In 2017, there were 16,350 deaths among adults and adolescents with diagnosed HIV in the United States and 6 dependent areas.a These deaths may be due to any cause
Influenza has an immunization. Almost 50% of adults don’t get it.
We NOW have treatment for Hep C, but it still kills 20,000 people annually, and yet we don’t see any panic.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/resourc...tality-us/1377
Human beings are tenacious. That’s how we’ve gone from a Global population of 1.9 Billion to 7.7 Billion in a hundred years..
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