pangolin

Stalled is a kind word. Mushing into the ground is what I’m seeing. Add power.

RustyChain

Fify......

furloughfuntime

something somthing muh rights something something constitution something something bill gates something something liberal hoax something something masks are dangerous something something just the flu

senecacaptain

26.1% (26.05) for July 23

Back in the 25-30% zone at least

C17B74

A fair amount of these passengers aren’t your every day travelers ya’ll were hauling around. LAX airline reps agreed when asked (by me two days ago) how are your pax levels? A tad higher, but their concern was pre-pandemonium pax requirements/assistance at kiosks and baggage was far less. Three of the reps mentioned they help well over ten times the amount of folks at kiosks, claims and where security entry/gates are located. Probably low fare junkies coming out of the woodwork. I’m more inclined to think it’s folks down from the mountains, swamps, valleys, etc never having flown before. I can only validate as Tommy Boy garbage bag carry-ons are an actual thing now...

Hopefully domestic will climb a lot faster than it has - International will take years.

International is a ghost town. Didn’t see a soul at 0700 here at Narita, Japan. Not a one out of uniform.

Roy Biggins

What are you babbling about douche bag? Shut the fuq up already

Roy Biggins

Its not good. I was an optimist; however, now I’m inclined to believe air travel won’t return for quite some time. I hope a vaccine will help get us back to respectable levels, but I’m not even confident in that anymore. I’ve talked to many people who just don’t want to get into a tube filled with other people as long as Covid 19 is still a thing...mask or no mask. Also, I have several family members who work for tech companies and say they’re saving a ton of money by training people over zoom rather than fly them out. Possibly a 40% reduction in their business travel. Obviously my heart sank when hearing this. Nobody really knows what the future holds for us, but it’s hard to envision 2018 levels.

Excargodog

I think business flying will partially come back, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it has taken a long term (if not permanent) 20-25% hit.

tallpilot

That's the two big dangers in my mind. Fear will subside with time. Companies learning how to do work remotely and seeing how much money it saves, that might be a long term secular trend that continues long after people forget about SARS-CoV-2. This affects the travel industry obviously but I also think it has huge ramifications for commercial office space.

I think the predictions of a ramp up to 50% after the fear subsides followed by a 2-3 year slog to 2019 levels are reasonable. But even at those passenger counts the business/leisure mix is going to be skewed toward the less profitable direction.

furloughfuntime

settle down snowflake. i was just mocking the various justifications covid deniers and conspiracy theorists use to justify not wearing masks. i didnt know it would hurt your feelings