TSA numbers above 100k seven days in row
07-20-2020, 09:28 PM
#1541
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Yep there’s guidelines. The states where the cases are rising rapidly and hospitals filling up are the ones that opened too fast in opposition to the advice of the CDC and at the behest of the Administration that was anxious to reopen the economy
There are CDC guidelines for reopening schools too. The administration tried to suppress those guidelines and is threatening to cut funding to schools that don’t reopen in spite of those guidelines. In a conventional administration they would emphasize following the guidelines and help by providing resources. It’s bizarre to watch
There are CDC guidelines for reopening schools too. The administration tried to suppress those guidelines and is threatening to cut funding to schools that don’t reopen in spite of those guidelines. In a conventional administration they would emphasize following the guidelines and help by providing resources. It’s bizarre to watch
07-21-2020, 04:34 AM
#1542
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Underpaid, LCC
Posts: 277
Yep there’s guidelines. The states where the cases are rising rapidly and hospitals filling up are the ones that opened too fast in opposition to the advice of the CDC and at the behest of the Administration that was anxious to reopen the economy
There are CDC guidelines for reopening schools too. The administration tried to suppress those guidelines and is threatening to cut funding to schools that don’t reopen in spite of those guidelines. In a conventional administration they would emphasize following the guidelines and help by providing resources. It’s bizarre to watch
There are CDC guidelines for reopening schools too. The administration tried to suppress those guidelines and is threatening to cut funding to schools that don’t reopen in spite of those guidelines. In a conventional administration they would emphasize following the guidelines and help by providing resources. It’s bizarre to watch
This is how I see it too.
07-21-2020, 05:09 AM
#1543
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 117
The uncertainty of whether or not mandatory quarantines or other lockdowns will reduce travel demand.
I live in New York and we were planning on an August road trip out of state but with so many states being added to the list requiring mandatory quarantine upon our return it’s not worth taking a chance.
Our amended plan was to go to a state that’s not on the list but we decided it’s not worth taking the chance. If it gets added to the list while we’re gone then it’s a mandatory quarantine. The snitch hotline seems to be popular here so I won’t take a chance on ignoring the mandate.
Looks like I’ll be exploring New York State this summer.
I live in New York and we were planning on an August road trip out of state but with so many states being added to the list requiring mandatory quarantine upon our return it’s not worth taking a chance.
Our amended plan was to go to a state that’s not on the list but we decided it’s not worth taking the chance. If it gets added to the list while we’re gone then it’s a mandatory quarantine. The snitch hotline seems to be popular here so I won’t take a chance on ignoring the mandate.
Looks like I’ll be exploring New York State this summer.
07-21-2020, 06:32 AM
#1544
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I am rounding up whenever possible for optimism
07-21-2020, 06:32 AM
#1545
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,200
Stalled out....
and I don’t think it has anything to do with fear of coronavirus per se. Until there is a destination worth going to, why spend the money?
07-21-2020, 07:13 AM
#1546
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I booked a flight to Florida for early November. If this continues, I’ll be canceling.
07-21-2020, 01:48 PM
#1547
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Yes, a coordinated federal response would have helped. In some cases, the federal government actively withheld aid from states. Why has every other country that responded from the top-down got this under control? You can't answer that.
And I don't like masked federal agents abducting innocent people without cause. They have constituional rights, and just because you don't like their politics doesn't mean they deserve to be wrongly imprisoned by unidentified thugs. How would you feel if armed federal agents showed up to your house and demanded your guns? Constituional rights are constitutional rights, and wrong is wrong.
Since you're not listening to me, here is Judge Andrew Napolitano of Fox News, someone who knows more about what's lawful and constitutional than either you or me:“What happened in Portland over the weekend, it was not only unlawful and unconstitutional, it’s just plain wrong. Sending armed, untrained police into the streets wearing fatigues without the knowledge or consent of the local police actually caused more violence.”
Napolitano also talked about a complaint by Oregon's attorney general against DHS that included allegations of kidnapping and blindfolding:
“You have a lot of peaceful demonstrators,” Napolitano argued. “The complaint filed by the attorney general of Oregon against the Department of Homeland Security recounts horror stories of peaceful people being kidnapped, held blindfold, handcuffed, and incommunicado for just two hours and then let go. There is no reason to disturb those people. The people they should stop are the ones with the baseball bats.”
“The federal government can’t do what it doesn’t have the authority to do,” he added. “And it shouldn’t do anything without the coordination of the locals.”
And I don't like masked federal agents abducting innocent people without cause. They have constituional rights, and just because you don't like their politics doesn't mean they deserve to be wrongly imprisoned by unidentified thugs. How would you feel if armed federal agents showed up to your house and demanded your guns? Constituional rights are constitutional rights, and wrong is wrong.
Since you're not listening to me, here is Judge Andrew Napolitano of Fox News, someone who knows more about what's lawful and constitutional than either you or me:“What happened in Portland over the weekend, it was not only unlawful and unconstitutional, it’s just plain wrong. Sending armed, untrained police into the streets wearing fatigues without the knowledge or consent of the local police actually caused more violence.”
Napolitano also talked about a complaint by Oregon's attorney general against DHS that included allegations of kidnapping and blindfolding:
“You have a lot of peaceful demonstrators,” Napolitano argued. “The complaint filed by the attorney general of Oregon against the Department of Homeland Security recounts horror stories of peaceful people being kidnapped, held blindfold, handcuffed, and incommunicado for just two hours and then let go. There is no reason to disturb those people. The people they should stop are the ones with the baseball bats.”
“The federal government can’t do what it doesn’t have the authority to do,” he added. “And it shouldn’t do anything without the coordination of the locals.”
The "authority" is in the Homeland security laws whether you like them or not. Actually, the Federal Government had more authority to send in troops to protect a Federal facility in Portland than it had to direct states what to do i.e. closing or opening. Again, you guys are so predictable. Under Republican leadership it is always "Why is the Federal Government involved, they have no right! It is unconstatutional!" or it's "Why isn't the Federal government doing more!"
Saw some more videos today of those "peaceful" protests in Portland. lmao, gtfo
07-21-2020, 05:06 PM
#1548
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Joined APC: May 2017
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Posts: 824
The "authority" is in the Homeland security laws whether you like them or not. Actually, the Federal Government had more authority to send in troops to protect a Federal facility in Portland than it had to direct states what to do i.e. closing or opening. Again, you guys are so predictable. Under Republican leadership it is always "Why is the Federal Government involved, they have no right! It is unconstatutional!" or it's "Why isn't the Federal government doing more!"
1. What agency are the officers from, that are in Portland?
2. What laws (title number in the CFRs) is that agency granted its authority under?
07-21-2020, 05:24 PM
#1549
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 237
The "authority" is in the Homeland security laws whether you like them or not. Actually, the Federal Government had more authority to send in troops to protect a Federal facility in Portland than it had to direct states what to do i.e. closing or opening. Again, you guys are so predictable. Under Republican leadership it is always "Why is the Federal Government involved, they have no right! It is unconstatutional!" or it's "Why isn't the Federal government doing more!"
Saw some more videos today of those "peaceful" protests in Portland. lmao, gtfo
Saw some more videos today of those "peaceful" protests in Portland. lmao, gtfo
Just because you don't like the politics of the protesters doesn't mean the constitution doesn't apply to them. This has nothing to do with democrat or republican, and everything to do with the rights we all have as American citizens.
07-21-2020, 05:30 PM
#1550
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
I’m sure you meant USC and not CFR, as agencies are granted authority from Congress via the USC, whereas those agencies can create regulations that are then put into CFRs.
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