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Old 05-08-2020, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast
We just need Las Vegas, Disney World, and the cruise lines to reopen then it's game on. Carnival Cruise stated they will start sailing again Aug 1st so it's a start.
I’m pretty sure summer is the slow season for cruising at least for FL departures with most of the boats up in the MED normally so hopefully not much loss there for us. August is going to be a grand experiment for the cruises.

Unlike the rest of the state, Orlando and Disney/universal peak in summer. I can’t imagine they want to zero that out. You have to assume they want to implement some measures to capture at least some revenue. That needs to happen for us probably more so than them. Orlando parks need to be open ASAP.

I don’t know about vegas as I’m sure it’s a year round economy. My guess is the YOLO crowd will come out quick if you give them a place to go and that’s vegas. They need to be able to eat and drink when they’re there though.

We need to be offering the first round free on all vegas flights to get the YOLOs out of hiding
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bradthepilot
Current rate of growth appears to be slowing, settling in at around 24% week over week. Will be interesting to see if this growth rate increases as states start to reopen, if it remains roughly constant for a period of time, or if it starts to taper off as people shut in get their travel fix and go back into hiding.

As a point of interest, should the growth rate remain steady at 24%, there will be roughly 2m passenger screenings per day in twelve weeks time. This is not a prediction, but rather an illustration on the importance of the growth rate as it relates to future planning.

I’ve seen stock graphs before and this is one optimistic, bullish way to paint this picture. You need a solid 0% line and floating candles that signify green or red for more or less people that flew.

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Old 05-08-2020, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Nothing about what happens this week meaningfully predicts next week.
Not true. Most airline travel is part of a trip pair, even under a steady state situation. Nearly half of those flights are pax RETURNING to their starting point.

Under a non-static trend increasing situation, over half of those trips will be the first half of round-trips. That will build in to those future numbers a demand caused by actions already taken.

so yeah, all those people leaving home today ARE driving up future numbers, because they will have to come back. Present and future trips are not independent variables.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
I’ve seen stock graphs before and this is one optimistic, bullish way to paint this picture. You need a solid 0% line and floating candles that signify green or red for more or less people that flew.
Not sure I agree, from a statistical analysis point of view. The two problem sets are extremely different. For starters, on any given day you have a variety of prices paid for a given security. However, there is exactly one, and only one, screening count for any given day. There are other differences as well such as daily volume, volatility, etc. that don't exist here.
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Old 05-08-2020, 11:57 AM
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Any body that thinks passengers will never return are either dooms dayers, out of touch with reality, or this is their first industry hiccup.

Remember when the Recession hit and people predicted the housing market would never recover and renting was way better than homeownership? How did that work out?

The Karen's of the world will stay inside like the cat ladies they are. Posting from their FB accounts with their #savinglives profile pics. The rest of us will proceed with life and drink beer.


By next Spring -Summer we will be close to or at 2.3-2.5 million/day, barring major events happening like murder wasps, or a new form of STD showing up in the middle of China or the Congo.

Watch how fast we go from 190k to 300k and upward.. Once theme parks and family fun spots open, watch the trend numbers from that first week of opening.

As we get closer to the election, watch how fast the media focus will shift from Covid 19 to normal mud slinging between Dems/Reps...

That chart on here is going to look more and more like a Nike swoosh
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Old 05-08-2020, 12:13 PM
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I agree. One the sheeple see the other sheeple traveling then they will deduce that it must be safem then when they hear about the great deals other got they will be furiously truing to get in on that action despite any percieved risk.
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Old 05-08-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun
Any body that thinks passengers will never return are either dooms dayers, out of touch with reality, or this is their first industry hiccup.

Remember when the Recession hit and people predicted the housing market would never recover and renting was way better than homeownership? How did that work out?

The Karen's of the world will stay inside like the cat ladies they are. Posting from their FB accounts with their #savinglives profile pics. The rest of us will proceed with life and drink beer.
You think there won’t be a recovery?
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Old 05-08-2020, 01:24 PM
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Sorry all re my previous post. Fat thumbs and zero proof reading.
I believe that my posts are so pressing to society that I must publish them immediatly; editing wastes time.
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Old 05-08-2020, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
Phase 1 of the Vegas reopening starts at midnight tonight. Hopefully travel there begins to pick up this month.
Phase 1 doesn’t include casinos. They’re still closed.
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