Career progression
#21
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: CA
Posts: 73
Like GF, I'm also older than most here....
1990 - Solo
1994 - Graduate college
1994-1996 - CFI
1996-2001 - 135/91 King Airs, Learjets, Westwinds, Astras, G200s
2001-2008 - Part 91 DA-2000/DA-900/GLEX Captain
2008-2013 - Part 91 Chief Pilot DA-7X (part time CL300/G450 also)
2013-???? - Part 91 Fortune 50 Chief Pilot GLEX/Global 6000
Never know where you might wind up next.
Networking has its value...but real friends are FAR more important. All my jobs have come through friends.
Also, make every attempt to NEVER burn a bridge and ALWAYS be honest. Your reputation is worth far more than your resume.
I have been invited to return to previous employers twice in this career, both times as promotions. It's a small industry.
Good Luck!
1990 - Solo
1994 - Graduate college
1994-1996 - CFI
1996-2001 - 135/91 King Airs, Learjets, Westwinds, Astras, G200s
2001-2008 - Part 91 DA-2000/DA-900/GLEX Captain
2008-2013 - Part 91 Chief Pilot DA-7X (part time CL300/G450 also)
2013-???? - Part 91 Fortune 50 Chief Pilot GLEX/Global 6000
Never know where you might wind up next.
Networking has its value...but real friends are FAR more important. All my jobs have come through friends.
Also, make every attempt to NEVER burn a bridge and ALWAYS be honest. Your reputation is worth far more than your resume.
I have been invited to return to previous employers twice in this career, both times as promotions. It's a small industry.
Good Luck!
#22
An MBA can be helpful. The Director of Aviation reports to a V-P; nearly always an MBA-type. You need to speak the language, understand aviation law, FAA regulatory environment, be a leader of people and manager of assets worth millions. Not absolutely essential, but a big help.
I wish I had now, but too late. My boss doesn't have one, btw.
GF
I wish I had now, but too late. My boss doesn't have one, btw.
GF
#23
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 423
While it works great for me, beware that in many larger operations a management role means you may not fly very much. Be sure that an office type gig is what you want.
#24
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 65
Career progression
Graduated-92 with very expensive aviation degree.
Instructed for 2.5 years. Way dangerous, made no money, had a blast and met great people.
Then had an 18 year corporate career. 8 jobs with 6 type ratings and sprinkled contract work. Awesome jobs with incredible people and great equipment and experiences but made almost less than no money and several failed retirements. Never went a day without a paycheck but always lived paycheck to paycheck.
At 41 started flying cargo and almost lost my house during "training pay and probation year". Now I make more money than I can count but told I am a spoiled 1%er and need to share it with strangers. Which after taxes is slightly better than paycheck to paycheck. My awesome benefits, retirement and healthcare are under daily attack. But I work for an awesome company with incredible people and gigantic aircraft.
I have had an incredible run but know I am lucky and this is not what I expected 25 years ago when I started.
Instructed for 2.5 years. Way dangerous, made no money, had a blast and met great people.
Then had an 18 year corporate career. 8 jobs with 6 type ratings and sprinkled contract work. Awesome jobs with incredible people and great equipment and experiences but made almost less than no money and several failed retirements. Never went a day without a paycheck but always lived paycheck to paycheck.
At 41 started flying cargo and almost lost my house during "training pay and probation year". Now I make more money than I can count but told I am a spoiled 1%er and need to share it with strangers. Which after taxes is slightly better than paycheck to paycheck. My awesome benefits, retirement and healthcare are under daily attack. But I work for an awesome company with incredible people and gigantic aircraft.
I have had an incredible run but know I am lucky and this is not what I expected 25 years ago when I started.
#25
Seems popular to demonize people with large salaries these days. Nobody points out that most worked really hard for years to get those jobs. They also spend those large salaries at businesses that employ fellow Americans. I wish we would go back to the land of opportunity...
#26
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 65
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I just don't know how many Doctors we would have in this country if a Residency lasted 25 years. I always thought I wouldn't mind taxes if I made this kind of money but after so many years you have a very short amount of time to pay for your kids education and prepare for retirement.
#27
I would certainly agree with Galaxy Flyer and NowCorporate. All of our pilots have at least a B.S. degree (a hiring requirement). A Masters isn't all that important, IMO. As has been said; you have to "talk the talk" and appreciate the overall goals and objectives of the company as our pilots are every bit as important as our other employees. In our case, the CP is a company VP and reports to the CEO (me).
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 174
Hi,
Not sure what old is but I probably qualify.
Graduated UND
7 years USAF KC-10's(4 years in the reserves as well)
12 years UAL
-727
-737
-DC10
-777
-A319/320
Instructed about 8 of 12 years there.
Now flying G550/V for a Dow 30 Company
Not sure what old is but I probably qualify.
Graduated UND
7 years USAF KC-10's(4 years in the reserves as well)
12 years UAL
-727
-737
-DC10
-777
-A319/320
Instructed about 8 of 12 years there.
Now flying G550/V for a Dow 30 Company
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