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Old 10-04-2012, 06:34 AM
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So many accurate posts. Why would an operator spend $$$ on a pilot for a rating when there are type rated, current with PIC in type standing in line? The operator who uses the term "entry level" knows you want/need a type and will accept lower pay,no schedule,etc.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:46 AM
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Why would an operator spend $$$ on a pilot for a rating when there are type rated, current with PIC in type standing in line?
Because one prefers to hire a person, rather than their type rating?
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pitch mode
So many accurate posts. Why would an operator spend $$$ on a pilot for a rating when there are type rated, current with PIC in type standing in line?
actually, the majority of departments DON'T hire the rating. They hire the person....yes, they may want a certain amount of experience, but they aren't worried about the 40k initial cost.

Most openings I have heard about have been in the larger, Intl planes (GLEX/Gxxx, etc) people simply prefer to fill that retirement with something similar and not spend 2-3 years bringing up a new guy. The exceptions seem to be lower paying or understaffed departments....as they can't attract the experienced guy as often and don't mind building their own. This often happens in very large departments. It's often a great opportunity for someone to make the jump to that kind of flying (if that's a career goal of course)

As far as people standing in line?....that just does not seem to be the case. I don't know many (any?) highly qualified people out of work, even in this economy....and that's a good thing.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Because one prefers to hire a person, rather than their type rating?
What BoilerUP said.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:47 PM
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Absolutely-the person, not the rating! We hire the person, their character and experience. Just about everybody we've hired were sent for a type course. Five or six pilots and about 12 ratings.

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Old 10-05-2012, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AviatorPop
The company I'm interviewing for has these in their fleet. Just don't know which one they will assign me yet.
You don't, as a rule, pay for type ratings. If a professional organization puts enough stock in your ability to fly one of their corporate jets, believe me, they will pay for ALL of your training. If they don't, it's not worth working for them.

As for your particular situation, they'll tell you what they want you to fly.

Just my two cents.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:24 PM
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I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that rec. The G200 is out of production and never sold well. The Falcon is reasonably popular and jobs are there, about like the CL605. The CL850 rating is useless: as is the Hawker.

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Yes, Falcon is my first choice precisely because of that. It's marketable. G200 - I think there may be some misunderstanding, I was thinking about the one Gulfstream makes. You may have to undergo the differences training probably due to the avionics. I still think it's a good airplane IMHO.

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Old 10-10-2012, 11:53 PM
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This is the problem with corporate jet industry. The fact that there are guys willing to spend 30-40k for a chance at a descent job. I would never and will never pay for an initial type. During my CP experience I would never hire a guy with a type and no time, if someone doesn't have the backbone to pay their dues and learn from experienced guys how to operate safe and efficiently, I don't want them flying for me or flying my clients. Just my 2 cents!!
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:57 AM
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This is the problem with corporate jet industry. The fact that there are guys willing to spend 30-40k for a chance at a descent job. I would never and will never pay for an initial type. During my CP experience I would never hire a guy with a type and no time, if someone doesn't have the backbone to pay their dues and learn from experienced guys how to operate safe and efficiently, I don't want them flying for me or flying my clients. Just my 2 cents!!
I think you misunderstood the op. I'm pretty sure his company is paying, but they have a big fleet and if he gets to choose what airframe he is put on what will be the most marketable down the road. To the op, correct me if I'm wrong.

On a side note, I don't know any contacts or have any friends that have paid for their own types in this industry. I know people do, but its not the norm.
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
I think you misunderstood the op. I'm pretty sure his company is paying, but they have a big fleet and if he gets to choose what airframe he is put on what will be the most marketable down the road. To the op, correct me if I'm wrong.

On a side note, I don't know any contacts or have any friends that have paid for their own types in this industry. I know people do, but its not the norm.
Sorry about the misunderstanding. The Cl605 is the type I would get. Just out of the sheer number of 605/604 airframes produced. It meets stage 4 noise requirements and will be here for a long time.
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