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01-10-2011, 07:06 PM

#21

withthatsaid182

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The Meridian doesn't have too good of range or payload from what I've seen.

The PC-12 is nice but the insurance is STEEP.

The TBM is a close second to the PC-12 but again only 4 people in the back.

As soon as he wants to bring 8 people the type of airplane goes up dramatically in size and price.

01-11-2011, 01:36 AM

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Insurance premiums high for a PC12? Can't say I've ever heard that before...got any examples?

01-11-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

Insurance premiums high for a PC12? Can't say I've ever heard that before...got any examples?

I was talking to a mgmt type from a company that runs a large PC-12 operation and he was saying $60k a year. I think he mentioned the high hull value.

01-11-2011, 06:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by withthatsaid182

I was talking to a mgmt type from a company that runs a large PC-12 operation and he was saying $60k a year. I think he mentioned the high hull value.

That's re-damn-diculous.

We have single-pilot coverage on our CJ2+ at $6.7M hull and $10M liability for less than $17k/year. While I have no doubt a fleet operator would have higher liability limits, there's no way I can fathom a PC12 getting remotely close to $60k.

01-11-2011, 07:19 AM

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quimby

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A Dash 10 CE-441 or Dash 10 Turbo Commander might do the trick if you can find a good deal.

01-11-2011, 07:20 AM

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NowCorporate

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Quote:

Originally Posted by withthatsaid182

I was talking to a mgmt type from a company that runs a large PC-12 operation and he was saying $60k a year. I think he mentioned the high hull value.

Maybe 6K a year.

60K? lol...

We insure a 52MIL hull with 500MIL in Liability for around that price.

01-11-2011, 02:10 PM

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dapper993

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Single Engine Aircraft for commercial use it doesn't surprise me too much. But again I guess that depends on what you define a large PC-12 fleet to be. Hull on Jets are cheaper/million to insure. Are they operating under 135 single pilot or as a crew. On our King Air fleet policy the difference between running a crew vs. single pilot at 25 million liability affected the price by 10k yearly. Our beechjet with over twice the hull value of one of our B200s is less than the B200 with the same pilots and liability coverage.

A B200 is a great airplane with a reasonable operating cost but you won't be able to fill it up with people and fuel that is for sure. Although who knows that may change soon if that Gross Weight Increase STC is released increasing GTOW to 14k.

01-13-2011, 06:49 PM

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BigMike

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KingAir 300. Outstanding and I mean OUTSTANDING performance for the cost. Load up 8 pax and 500# of stuff and fly a thousand miles. Totally different animal (performance-wise) than the 200.