newly acquired Citation FJ-44 Eagle II
05-06-2010, 04:22 PM
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newly acquired Citation FJ-44 Eagle II
My flight department just acquired a Citation ISP with the FJ44 Eagle modification and a few of us are finishing up school. I'd appreciate any operating information you may have on the aircraft (flight planning, maintenance, actual minimum runway used, thoughts on having no thrust reversers, etc).
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Thank you.
Feel free to PM me.
Thank you.
05-06-2010, 06:15 PM
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I don't know anything about Sierra modded airplanes, and haven't flown a Citation 500.
That said, going from a Citation II with TRs to our CJ2+, I don't miss the reversers in day-to-day operations...although admittedly knowing they're there would give me warm fuzzies on short/contaminated runways.
That said, going from a Citation II with TRs to our CJ2+, I don't miss the reversers in day-to-day operations...although admittedly knowing they're there would give me warm fuzzies on short/contaminated runways.
05-07-2010, 05:21 AM
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I have never flown the 500 either, but I have gobs of time in a II and we had 2 runways we used regularly(SP) that I felt we needed the reversers. Most airports it's a non issue with the low REF speeds of a straight wing citation.
I talked to a crew in Denver a few years back in a williams powered 500 and they had nothing but good things to say about the conversion. Good luck with the new plane
I talked to a crew in Denver a few years back in a williams powered 500 and they had nothing but good things to say about the conversion. Good luck with the new plane
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
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365-385 Cruise depending on Altitude. Will rarely see over M .65 in cruise.
I think the Eagle mod. creates a noticeable buffet above M.66 on descent.
Climb rate...phenomenal....4-5k/min. depending on temp/weight/climb profile..but I usually fly in warmer temps and near max weight. I had some of my IOE with a Bravo pilot who said they were comparable in performance in climb.
This is one Citation I you can do 250 KIAS on departure (below 10k), keep up with the most others, and still get 3k-4k/min climb rate.
Not really any need to step climb unless heavy and hot. Usually climb right to 390-430. Easier if you use the Eagle Long range profile found in the Eagle OPS manual. I don't think Sierra has published an Eagle II Ops. manual yet. Sierra doesn't really have it all together with all the performance data. From what I've seen the long range and normal cruise are all the same at FL430.
First hour expect at least 1200 lbs/hr, second 850-900, thereafter...800-900 (if you are at FL 400-430)
Descent. Unfortunately still a Citation I and Mmo still at .705 Even though you and the guys behind you really want you to go faster
Short field performance is incredible. Vref very low. I don't have anti-skid, nor do I feel I need it. With ground idle and super low touchdown speeds, landing distance is a joke.
Full fuel range, no wind.......maybe 1500 miles.
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I think the Eagle mod. creates a noticeable buffet above M.66 on descent.
Climb rate...phenomenal....4-5k/min. depending on temp/weight/climb profile..but I usually fly in warmer temps and near max weight. I had some of my IOE with a Bravo pilot who said they were comparable in performance in climb.
This is one Citation I you can do 250 KIAS on departure (below 10k), keep up with the most others, and still get 3k-4k/min climb rate.
Not really any need to step climb unless heavy and hot. Usually climb right to 390-430. Easier if you use the Eagle Long range profile found in the Eagle OPS manual. I don't think Sierra has published an Eagle II Ops. manual yet. Sierra doesn't really have it all together with all the performance data. From what I've seen the long range and normal cruise are all the same at FL430.
First hour expect at least 1200 lbs/hr, second 850-900, thereafter...800-900 (if you are at FL 400-430)
Descent. Unfortunately still a Citation I and Mmo still at .705 Even though you and the guys behind you really want you to go faster
Short field performance is incredible. Vref very low. I don't have anti-skid, nor do I feel I need it. With ground idle and super low touchdown speeds, landing distance is a joke.
Full fuel range, no wind.......maybe 1500 miles.
Im on PPW (Pro Pilot World) as Krusty if you want to PM me. If you aren't, join.
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