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Old 03-28-2010, 08:43 PM
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Watch it. Sometimes companies like that hire for two then realize you're so good at keeping it flying, that'll be all you do. Then they hire another captain. Get it in writing.
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Originally Posted by CheyenneDriver
I am looking into a Co-Captain position flying a BeechJet 400. The part 91 position also requires an A&P license (which I have). I come to the table with 5,500TT, 3,000 multi and 2,700 turbine but no Jet experience. The job is based in the NW United States.

Any idea what I should expect for a salary if the job is offered?

I would check to see what others in that position are getting $$. If you don't have any jet time, then that is a great value to you. Benifits are also a big considerstion. Pro-pilot mag. has salary surveys that might be worth looking at.

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Old 03-30-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CheyenneDriver
I am looking into a Co-Captain position flying a BeechJet 400. The part 91 position also requires an A&P license (which I have). I come to the table with 5,500TT, 3,000 multi and 2,700 turbine but no Jet experience. The job is based in the NW United States.

Any idea what I should expect for a salary if the job is offered?


What is a "Co-captain"?
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by oldschoollear
What is a "Co-captain"?

Its the touch feely way of saying "Co-Pilot" in corporate.

You know, you got to FSI and get a type rating, (a real accomplishment in itself huh?...)

It says you can be a PIC, Captain, Commander, whatever on the plane...but no way in hell is anyone going to trust you with the plane because you're pretty much an idiot....

Of course they cant offend you by saying "co-pilot" or "first officer"...so....Co-Captain it is! 4 stripes and all...

Usually the title wears off in about 3 months...then most Co-Captains start complaining and wondering why they don't get PIC pay.

PS - The end all be all in corporate seems to be the "Senior International Gulfstream Training Captain"

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Old 03-30-2010, 01:40 PM
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Yea, it is kind of touchy-feely. I have flown in corporate jobs in which the salary has been the same... switching seats every other leg. We considered the guy in the left seat the PIC for that leg. Its an arrangement to preserve egos. Ironically, its also the perfect platform for a clash of egos.
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CheyenneDriver
I am looking into a Co-Captain position flying a BeechJet 400. The part 91 position also requires an A&P license (which I have). I come to the table with 5,500TT, 3,000 multi and 2,700 turbine but no Jet experience. The job is based in the NW United States.

Any idea what I should expect for a salary if the job is offered?
Hey PM me if the a/c is in Seattle. If its the same one I know of I have some information that you would probably like to have while you are considering the position. If they want you to do maintenance on the aircraft (particularly if you are to be the primary wrench for the plane) then you need to compensated accordingly. Contract maint. up here goes for about $100 an hour so you do the math if you have to do all the preflight sign offs and post flight checks to put the a/c to bed.

The fact that you have no jet time really shouldnt have much bearing on you flying the plane with the amount of time you have. The insurance probably requires you to be typed and have 100 plus hours before you can fly as "captain" and it sounds like they have another qualified captain to fly with you so all you have to do is make it through training and you should be golden.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:28 PM
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Charter company near me pays 300 dollars a day you get about 125-150 days a year
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CheyenneDriver
I am looking into a Co-Captain position flying a BeechJet 400. The part 91 position also requires an A&P license (which I have). I come to the table with 5,500TT, 3,000 multi and 2,700 turbine but no Jet experience. The job is based in the NW United States.

Any idea what I should expect for a salary if the job is offered?
I believe average pay in charter is 75K for a Captain, 45K for a co-pilot. Saw it one of the magazines.

91 it was 80K for a Captain.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:10 AM
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ProPilot 2010 had Beechjet 400/400A/400XP Charter average pay at $70k for Captain, $45k for Copilot. Part 91, averages were $72k for Captain and $47k for Copilot.
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
Its the touch feely way of saying "Co-Pilot" in corporate.

You know, you got to FSI and get a type rating, (a real accomplishment in itself huh?...)

It says you can be a PIC, Captain, Commander, whatever on the plane...but no way in hell is anyone going to trust you with the plane because you're pretty much an idiot....

Of course they cant offend you by saying "co-pilot" or "first officer"...so....Co-Captain it is! 4 stripes and all...

Usually the title wears off in about 3 months...then most Co-Captains start complaining and wondering why they don't get PIC pay.

PS - The end all be all in corporate seems to be the "Senior International Gulfstream Training Captain"
Well put, thank you! I always thought co-captain was a nonsensical term.

Also, good point you made with sarcasm about getting typed from FSI. If it's your first jet type rating, sure, it feels good. Then once you gain some experience, one learns that FSI, Simuflite, etc. are type rating/ATP factories and they're practically handed out like Halloween candy. After all, you can't tick off the customer by failing them!
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