Avanti= Heavy trim?
10-06-2009, 07:24 AM
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Avanti= Heavy trim?
Hey folks, 3 year lurker, first time poster.
My company (2 aircraft) has just replaced a old King Air with a 2002 P-180. Nice trade up huh?
Anyway I will be PIC in this aircraft and have done some reading before going to get typed in the next few weeks and I am getting mixed reviews on how tricky this bird is to land. A friend of a friends brother says it lands like a flying brick and requires alot of trim work on the descent. Any truth to this? I have no idea of his experience in this matter so I take it at face value. However i noticed landing speed in this plane is around 125 which is a bit more sporty then Im used to and I wanted to get a better view from someone flying this bird daily. If you could offer any advice, it would be appreciated.
Jet Man
My company (2 aircraft) has just replaced a old King Air with a 2002 P-180. Nice trade up huh?
Anyway I will be PIC in this aircraft and have done some reading before going to get typed in the next few weeks and I am getting mixed reviews on how tricky this bird is to land. A friend of a friends brother says it lands like a flying brick and requires alot of trim work on the descent. Any truth to this? I have no idea of his experience in this matter so I take it at face value. However i noticed landing speed in this plane is around 125 which is a bit more sporty then Im used to and I wanted to get a better view from someone flying this bird daily. If you could offer any advice, it would be appreciated.
Jet Man
10-07-2009, 06:30 AM
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It definitely requires trim changes during the configuration changes prior to landing. The autopilot does a nice job of keeping things smooth for the passengers. If you're handflying, it takes a little gettting used to, but it's not difficult and you'll get the hang of it quickly. It's a nice airplane. Enjoy it!
btw, no type rating required for the P180...
btw, no type rating required for the P180...
10-18-2009, 01:18 PM
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It flies like any other plane. The only thing (airborne) to get used to is when the flaps are traveling the sequence of their retraction and extension can cause lots of trimming. Otherwise easy to fly.
Now, on the ground; I would be cautious when you taxi at high speeds and during any nose-wheel actuation. That system can get you in trouble. Lots of runway excursions from using too much pedal.
Really an amazing piece of engineering when you think about the speeds/efficiency of this plane per pound of fuel.
Now, on the ground; I would be cautious when you taxi at high speeds and during any nose-wheel actuation. That system can get you in trouble. Lots of runway excursions from using too much pedal.
Really an amazing piece of engineering when you think about the speeds/efficiency of this plane per pound of fuel.
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