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Old 05-19-2009, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 577nitro
What are the typical minimums to get on for a entry level FO?

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Anywhere from 300 to 10,000 hours, depending on the operation.

That being said, many people have gotten their start as a jet SIC with 500-700 hours.
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:44 AM
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If you want to fly, go do it! Pay cash as you go. Don't borrow any money. Get your CFI, CFII, MEI as soon as you can, and do a lot of Instrument and Multi Engine instruction, but only if you like instructing. If you hate instructing, buy a cheap multi after you get your instrument rating and commercial amel, throttle it back to 45% power and fly cross country for 500 hours!
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotkitch
Well said NowCorporate, If you want to fly then fly. There will always be a job to be had, you just have to be willing to accept opportunities when they present themselves. Everyone has to pay their dues in the beginning and if you worry about how much money you will make in the beginning you will just worry yourself to death. Remember pay and quality of life comes with experience (unless your one of the lucky ones that trips and falls into a great job early on). Good Luck

By pay dues you mean, fly for sh!t pay, fly fatigued, never home, and dangerous. Why does everyone have to do that? The problem is we accept this"paying dues" BS, when no one should ever have to fly under those conditions. Let's drop that attitude "since I did it, you have to do it" and we will all be better off.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by widebodyjunkie
Geez....why would anyone stay in a king air for 20+ years.
Because they rock...

Within 15 min. of a jet on a 200-250NM trip, half the fuel, short runways, etc.

In short---Job Security.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:12 PM
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By pay dues you mean, fly for sh!t pay, fly fatigued, never home, and dangerous. Why does everyone have to do that? The problem is we accept this"paying dues" BS, when no one should ever have to fly under those conditions. Let's drop that attitude "since I did it, you have to do it" and we will all be better off.
Well shady ops, I worked lineservice for a few years while going thru my ratings. every dime I had went into ratings somtimes living on overstock catering. I then rode right seat freight and eventually made pic and flew night cancelled checks . Eventually moved up to citations with the same 135 co. and did that for another 10yr. and finially got a great 91 gig. I paid my dues , and I would do anything to keep self entitlement low skill pilots such as you come across as out of the flying business.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:54 PM
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Well shady ops, I worked lineservice for a few years while going thru my ratings. every dime I had went into ratings somtimes living on overstock catering. I then rode right seat freight and eventually made pic and flew night cancelled checks . Eventually moved up to citations with the same 135 co. and did that for another 10yr. and finially got a great 91 gig. I paid my dues , and I would do anything to keep self entitlement low skill pilots such as you come across as out of the flying business.
You only highlight your immaturity making assumptions. There is a difference between working hard, and taking crap jobs, which is why I recommend dropping the "pay your dues" phrase.

And it's funny how you assume I am a "low skill pilot". You don't even know my name. You should explain yourself to avoid further embarrassment.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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The only difference is what you define as a crap job at the time your doing it. Being employed with mesa might be a good first gig untill you move on, then it's a crap job.

I apoligize for the low skill comment , But you come across as a zero to hero pilot who wants to fly a gulfstream for a fortune 100 co. right out of college.

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Old 06-30-2009, 04:11 PM
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Maybe low skill was the wrong phrase,,, how bout low time,, that make you feel better?

Nothing you say has any bearing on how I feel. In any case this isn't a debate about flight time. It is about how the divide between senior pilots and junior pilots weakens our profession. Your "I paid my dues attitude" is de-unifying. What you are saying is " I flew for crap pay, I flew fatigued, I worked for a bad employer, now it's your turn".

Out of curiosity, what do you consider low time?
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:16 PM
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de- unifying? how do you figure? What do I consider low time? depends on what the job is.....flying jumpers - 100tt is low time...airlines ATP mins at the least. company I work for,, 4 to 5k tt.
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Originally Posted by ce650
The only difference is what you define as a crap job at the time your doing it. Being employed with mesa might be a good first gig untill you move on, then it's a crap job.

I apoligize for the low skill comment , But you come across as a zero to hero pilot who wants to fly a gulfstream for a fortune 100 co. right out of college.
I am not what you assume. I don't care what I fly, as long as I am not stepping on anyones back (wallet) to fly it, including my own.
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