The skinny on Clay Lacy
#31
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Yeah, and I asked the question under a category titled "Corporate".... Whats your point?
#32
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Of course "scabs" are real. Of course they're not welcome back in the employment line in a union shop, after they've crossed a pickete line. I'm quite aware of the implications; unlike some here, I've spent my time as a steward and business agent, and have represented in bargaining, grievance settlemnt, and in disciplinary proceedings. I'm aware.
I'm also aware of the extremists who are driven to madness by the mere mention of the word, who vow to punish the "scabs" in life and death, and to punish their families. I've no use for that juvenile stupidity. It's a god damn job. Grow up, folks. Calm down. You'll give yourselves a stroke.
Who do you work for (or used to) anyway??
Don't even say specific company, but Legacy, ACMI, LCC. Tell us so we MIGHT actually believe your endless tall tales.
#33
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Your belief is irrelevant. You've spent how much time in a union service position, then?
Not a single "tall tale" from my end. You needn't apologize or make excuses for your lack of experinece, but you should go get some. Maybe the real world wouldn't seem so fantastic to you, then. Or, simply grow up. Go around the block a few times. Check back when you've been there, and/or done that.
Not a single "tall tale" from my end. You needn't apologize or make excuses for your lack of experinece, but you should go get some. Maybe the real world wouldn't seem so fantastic to you, then. Or, simply grow up. Go around the block a few times. Check back when you've been there, and/or done that.
#34
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I applied for local SIC on Challenger. It was there in February . Still there in May. Took 30 days to get a response. The site you use to track your application failed. Made a few phone calls that were dead ends. Emailed HR and no responses. Not being critical - they probably would get very little done if they answered everyone. They eventually emailed me a, "NO", letter but my application would be kept on file.
#35
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JB probably never was a pilot...... maybe a small town airport manager?
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#36
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Yea I'm a strong union guy but most of these cats who gripe about him crossing the picket line 40 years ago weren't even born or still under puberty and had nothing to do with him or United . Time for folks to get a life . Hope you find the info you need.
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#38
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Bologna. Scabs should not be forgotten.
#39
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You are NOT a "strong union guy".
#40
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Ah, so you’ve got your eye on a spot at old Herschel’s Hangar, do you, youngblood? Well, let me save you the trouble—you shouldn’t.
Ol’ Herschel is a SCAB of the worst kind. Back when he was #0001 on the UAL Seniority List, he threw his fellow aviators under the bus the moment they went on strike. I once witnessed F. Lee Bailey tear him apart on the concourse at LAX, sometime around ’88, for being a SCAB—and trust me, that’s a story worth telling over a stiff drink. Herschel didn’t just betray the guys at United, the guys in his guard unit, and the pilots he hired before he sold the 135 & FBO (and then repurchased and sold again) - he screwed over the very men who sat right seat for him in the Lear during those air-to-air Hollywood shots. Ever notice how the credits in those old-time flicks only say, “Air To Air Shots Provided By Clay Lacy Aviation,” while everyone else—caterers, cleaners, you name it—gets their SAG-AFTRA due? But not Herschel’s co-pilots. No, sir.
Amongst the dozens of wrongful termination, hostile work environment, etc and et al lawsuits brought against he and his companies, The “Let’s Screw ’Em Over” mentality is alive and kicking at Herschel’s Hangar - even though he's sitting at home ****ing in his own diapers. You won’t believe this, but they had the audacity to ask a U.S. District Court Judge, in a case the plaintiff lost on appeal, to sanction that plaintiff - a pilot that was owed wages and seeking to right the financial wrongs imposed on him by the company. That kind of move is almost unheard of in employment and labor law and was done so in poor taste and in a retailiatory fashion. The Judge disallowed the sanction and ran the CLA lawyers out of the courtroom
If you didn’t get hired by ol’ Herschel, consider yourself lucky. He absolutely hates being called “Herschel" - Clay is his nickname.
A SCAB is a SCAB. Don't do it.
Ol’ Herschel is a SCAB of the worst kind. Back when he was #0001 on the UAL Seniority List, he threw his fellow aviators under the bus the moment they went on strike. I once witnessed F. Lee Bailey tear him apart on the concourse at LAX, sometime around ’88, for being a SCAB—and trust me, that’s a story worth telling over a stiff drink. Herschel didn’t just betray the guys at United, the guys in his guard unit, and the pilots he hired before he sold the 135 & FBO (and then repurchased and sold again) - he screwed over the very men who sat right seat for him in the Lear during those air-to-air Hollywood shots. Ever notice how the credits in those old-time flicks only say, “Air To Air Shots Provided By Clay Lacy Aviation,” while everyone else—caterers, cleaners, you name it—gets their SAG-AFTRA due? But not Herschel’s co-pilots. No, sir.
Amongst the dozens of wrongful termination, hostile work environment, etc and et al lawsuits brought against he and his companies, The “Let’s Screw ’Em Over” mentality is alive and kicking at Herschel’s Hangar - even though he's sitting at home ****ing in his own diapers. You won’t believe this, but they had the audacity to ask a U.S. District Court Judge, in a case the plaintiff lost on appeal, to sanction that plaintiff - a pilot that was owed wages and seeking to right the financial wrongs imposed on him by the company. That kind of move is almost unheard of in employment and labor law and was done so in poor taste and in a retailiatory fashion. The Judge disallowed the sanction and ran the CLA lawyers out of the courtroom
If you didn’t get hired by ol’ Herschel, consider yourself lucky. He absolutely hates being called “Herschel" - Clay is his nickname.
A SCAB is a SCAB. Don't do it.
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