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Old 11-23-2017, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
Better yet, everyone should be minding their own business and worring about themselves. You shouldn’t have a problem with anyone else’s uniform (unless they have a stain/tear or their wings are falling off). If someone isn’t wearing wings, hat, jacket, scarf, has stubble, wrinkled shirt... needless to say they know about it and don’t care for anyone else’s opinion.
This. Everyone should just mind their own dang business. Won’t last a day at mainline if you’re caught telling on other guys.
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Old 11-23-2017, 04:20 AM
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[QUOTE=Slowhawk;2470847]A. Wearing of the uniform will be limited to when on duty, when on special assignment or when in transit to or from duty.

B. PICs and SICs will only wear a complete uniform as described below. Other items are not authorized.

D. Uniform combinations or variations other than those stipulated below are not authorized.

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A. Compass Airlines hat emblem and hardware as sold by the designated Company uniform supplier will be worn when the pilot is in public outside the aircraft.


It’s crystal clear in the FOM. Either you’re in compliance or you’re knowingly breaking FOM.

Yes, no one should get reported or in trouble for this.
But honestly? No one should ever have to report it, or discipline someone for it; because it should simply never happen. It is so easy to control that it should be an impossibility. We’re airline pilots, not 14 year old girls fighting the school dress code. This shouldn’t be an issue, especially with Captains. Obviously it is becoming a problem, so the company is enforcing it.

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Old 11-23-2017, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
A. Wearing of the uniform will be limited to when on duty, when on special assignment or when in transit to or from duty.

B. PICs and SICs will only wear a complete uniform as described below. Other items are not authorized.

D. Uniform combinations or variations other than those stipulated below are not authorized.

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A. Compass Airlines hat emblem and hardware as sold by the designated Company uniform supplier will be worn when the pilot is in public outside the aircraft.


It’s crystal clear in the FOM. Either you’re in compliance or you’re knowingly breaking FOM.

Yes, no one should get reported or in trouble for this.
But honestly? No one should ever have to report it, or discipline someone for it; because it should simply never happen. It is so easy to control that it should be an impossibility. We’re airline pilots, not 14 year old girls fighting the school dress code. This shouldn’t be an issue, especially with Captains. Obviously it is becoming a problem, so the company is enforcing it.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
The issue isn’t the company enforcing something, it’s someone tattling to get someone in trouble. Leave it to mgmt to pick and choose what they feel is the best to enforce.
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:34 AM
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You know Delta asks (as an interview question) what you'd do as a new hire FO if you saw the captain not wearing their hat, or if you're the Captain and the FO is not wearing theirs.

The idea behind the question is to see how you'd handle the situation, or act as a crew member in general (think of it as an A hole check- is this guy one).

First you should inquire, hey where's your hat? (maybe they had something going on at home that caused them to forget the hat etc) Assuming why a person does something is never a good idea. Maybe they do indeed feel like the FOM is dated, and they don't want to wear it, but it's possible that they lost it, or forgot it.

Once you have determined the reason, then you can move forward. If they are going against FOM you can politely point it out and go from there. Escalte it methodically without throwing the guy under the bus immediately... running to management is a dick move.
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:59 AM
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Snitches get stitches. They also get put on lists that will keep them at Compass for a very long time.

It’s a shame to see how Compass has changed.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by veewan
You know Delta asks (as an interview question) what you'd do as a new hire FO if you saw the captain not wearing their hat, or if you're the Captain and the FO is not wearing theirs.

The idea behind the question is to see how you'd handle the situation, or act as a crew member in general (think of it as an A hole check- is this guy one).

First you should inquire, hey where's your hat? (maybe they had something going on at home that caused them to forget the hat etc) Assuming why a person does something is never a good idea. Maybe they do indeed feel like the FOM is dated, and they don't want to wear it, but it's possible that they lost it, or forgot it.

Once you have determined the reason, then you can move forward. If they are going against FOM you can politely point it out and go from there. Escalte it methodically without throwing the guy under the bus immediately... running to management is a dick move.
Even better, just point at some agent and say: “Uh-oh. That’s the one who wrote up a CA for not wearing his hat last month!”
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Yah, no I'm just saying if the person walked into the crew room with a personal jacket over a uniform, maybe AO or whomever saw it and said something. I'm just speculating, I have no idea.
I don't see the problem of wearing a Northface over the shirt as long as you're not working and have your badge hidden.

However you need to have your uniform perfect when approaching the gate and when in front of pax. Wearing the hat isn't hard either. I don't like it but I'm paid to look a certain way and fly the plane how they want me to fly it. When I own my own airline I'll fly in shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, and flip flops.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
When I own my own airline I'll fly in shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, and flip flops.
Mins? Upgrade Time? Flow?
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
When I own my own airline I'll fly in shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, and flip flops.
Flow to Maingear's airline Q3 2018, heard it from BG himself.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
A. Wearing of the uniform will be limited to when on duty, when on special assignment or when in transit to or from duty.

B. PICs and SICs will only wear a complete uniform as described below. Other items are not authorized.

D. Uniform combinations or variations other than those stipulated below are not authorized.

6-16-6
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A. Compass Airlines hat emblem and hardware as sold by the designated Company uniform supplier will be worn when the pilot is in public outside the aircraft.


It’s crystal clear in the FOM. Either you’re in compliance or you’re knowingly breaking FOM.

Yes, no one should get reported or in trouble for this.
But honestly? No one should ever have to report it, or discipline someone for it; because it should simply never happen. It is so easy to control that it should be an impossibility. We’re airline pilots, not 14 year old girls fighting the school dress code. This shouldn’t be an issue, especially with Captains. Obviously it is becoming a problem, so the company is enforcing it.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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