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Old 10-27-2017, 05:04 PM
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My entire family has or is at he majors. The majors have historically been more helpful to new hires than regionals......maybe that has changed over the last decade I don't know
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
It’s not one and done dude. We just don’t drop you and move onto the next new hire because you forgot a simple flow or call out or because you failed a training event. You get a couple tries and then if you still can’t hack it, then it goes to the training review board just like any other airline. For all the new hires, stop thinking that compass training is god awful and harder than any other airlines in the industry. Again, show up prepared, know your call outs and flows like the back of your hand, be able to say your call outs while watching tv and not just in perfect order but in random order as well, and have a positive attitude.


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THIS.

Our training is not hard. It is a challenge, sure. Especially if you have never flown a large turbine aircraft or flew in a crew environment. Study limitstions, SOPA/SMAC and learn flows, you will be fine. The people who flunk out likely didn't study at all and expeced to pass, or really just don't belong in an airliner. That being said, if you have never been in 121 before, the biggest challenge will be the choreography of all the pre push back items. Read SOPA SMAC through a few times and practice it in front of the paper cockpit with your SIM partner at the hotel. You can't just show up everyday and not study. This is true at every airline.
I came from flying turbo props and small jets, still had to practice a ton!!! A hour or two every night at the hotel is plenty to get flows and SOPA/Smac down well, with time left over to enjoy yourself. Just stick with it, and stay ahead a little. Work with your SIM partner outside of the schoolhouse, it isn't required per se, but will make a world of difference for both of you. You Will feel much better by learning from one another and practicing SOPA/Smac.

Also, try your best to get your mind into the right mindset while in the SIM and FTDs. Treat everything like a real airplane. It's easy to fall into "oh this is just a sim" and become lazy.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Citation X
My entire family has or is at he majors. The majors have historically been more helpful to new hires than regionals......maybe that has changed over the last decade I don't know


Ohh god, are your family members the ones that sit in our JS and say “hey you know where hiring right?” 🤦*♂️


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Old 10-27-2017, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mpet
Are you people serious? AQP initial is a freaking joke. Awac training was tenfold harder than cpz training. Our washout rate here is low and hundreds and hundreds have gone through compass training with no issues... They are more than generous here.
Get off your high horse. AQP is a less stressful training regimen, but it's not a "joke". You make the pilot group as a whole look less qualified when you say things like that. Also its quite rude to those who didn't do as well you may have. It can also greatly vary depending on who your instructors are and how much they do or don't teach you.

I didn't have any issues in training, but for the most part it was self learning and then come in to the school house to verify your progress. For those with no 121 or 135 (especially jet) training in their history it can be a big change from what they are used to, and a few years ago our training department didn't do a lot to help those pilots.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Ohh god, are your family members the ones that sit in our JS and say “hey you know where hiring right?” 🤦*♂️


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Take it easy brosaurus rex.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Take it easy brosaurus rex.


No, just stating the facts that are present with the total disconnect the mainline people have from what’s really going on in the regional world. I think every CA here can back me when I say we have all been asked if we knew their airline (insert DL AA and UA) was hiring. Getting advice on what regional carrier to go to from a mainline pilot is like asking you dentist to take a look at your car cause it’s making knocking noise.


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Old 10-27-2017, 05:23 PM
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[QUOTE=Fpmx772;2455803]Ohh god, are your family members the ones that sit in our JS and say “hey you know where hiring right?” 🤦*♂️

Ummmmm, no.....all retired but my bro who is a captain at Spirit looking to get out
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
No, just stating the facts that are present with the total disconnect the mainline people have from what’s really going on in the regional world. I think every CA here can back me when I say we have all been asked if we knew their airline (insert DL AA and UA) was hiring. Getting advice on what regional carrier to go to from a mainline pilot is like asking you dentist to take a look at your car cause it’s making knocking noise.


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Yah but the guy is just talking about his family, it's all good. I feel you though, it's hard to hear some guys say, "so... when are ya comin to Delta?" Or... "you fly for Compass/DC? Why don't you just fly for Delta?"
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
No, just stating the facts that are present with the total disconnect the mainline people have from what’s really going on in the regional world. I think every CA here can back me when I say we have all been asked if we knew their airline (insert DL AA and UA) was hiring. Getting advice on what regional carrier to go to from a mainline pilot is like asking you dentist to take a look at your car cause it’s making knocking noise.


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That's a better attitude now.
Not every mainline pilot says that, and you have no place to put his family down just because they got to where we are trying to go.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PanchoBarnes
That's a better attitude now.

Not every mainline pilot says that, and you have no place to put his family down just because they got to where we are trying to go.


Not putting his family down at all, just saying it’s not wise to get advice from mainline about regionals. I too have family at mainline and I never ask them, nor did I ask them, for advice when I first started in the 121 world. So I’m the SoCal BroCal words, relax broseph


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