Compass Updates - Saga Continues
10-21-2017, 09:48 AM
#8551
Seat 0B
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 793
Excuse you ? No reason why a first year mainline FO should make more then a regional captain?
How about the fact that unless Mil that 1st year FO was probably a regional captain and had the quals or abilities to get the job that you so desperately won’t but have not realized. That has no economic value ? We pay people in this country largely on merit however that is defined not on some sense of self entitlement. I want that job just like you do. So let’s not begrudge those that got it.
How about the fact that unless Mil that 1st year FO was probably a regional captain and had the quals or abilities to get the job that you so desperately won’t but have not realized. That has no economic value ? We pay people in this country largely on merit however that is defined not on some sense of self entitlement. I want that job just like you do. So let’s not begrudge those that got it.
10-21-2017, 10:17 AM
#8552
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Would you say that’s more the rule or exception how about balancing that with now mainline FOs who were chcekairmen or your chief pilot should they not make more then our captains considering they achieved a higher position. I would venture there are much more former regional LCAs at mainline then former regional FOs. Bottom line the only reason a problem is stated is because we have not landed those jobs. Of course we are still on the journey but by an large the system works out that for the most part the most qualified make the most at a given snap shot.
10-21-2017, 10:24 AM
#8553
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
If you again not you as in you the hypothetical you have more economic value then the mainline fo you would be paid more. If you were more or as qualified would you not be there ? Why are they swinging gear (FYI an archaic derogatory term for an FO that actively flies and participates in the safe outcome of the mainline flight) on the 737 while you have been unable to attain it. Is it education, GPA, training history inadequate networking I don’t know I haven’t cracked it because I am also the YOU I refer to. I can tell you however without self awareness I can never hope to improve my lot.
10-21-2017, 10:24 AM
#8554
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 644
Would you say that’s more the rule or exception how about balancing that with now mainline FOs who were chcekairmen or your chief pilot should they not make more then our captains considering they achieved a higher position. I would venture there are much more former regional LCAs at mainline then former regional FOs. Bottom line the only reason a problem is stated is because we have not landed those jobs. Of course we are still on the journey but by an large the system works out that for the most part the most qualified make the most at a given snap shot.
10-21-2017, 10:27 AM
#8555
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,186
I don't care if you were an LCA or CP. We all do the SAME JOB. Whatever you did at your previous carrier doesn't translate to higher pay. I'm a Captain with 76 PAX and 3 other crewmembers. I don't care that some mainline FO was an LCA. He's making DOUBLE for doing half the work. Your argument is ridiculous
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10-21-2017, 10:39 AM
#8556
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
So ridiculous that that’s how it works industry wide ?
What say you ALPA what say you airline execs? Clearly they haven’t been listening to us as compass captain must be them that’s wrong.
Let’s not be arrogant guys your not paid like a mainline FO because there job is harder to get then ours. MLB and minor league do the same they are not paid the same wonder why.
What say you ALPA what say you airline execs? Clearly they haven’t been listening to us as compass captain must be them that’s wrong.
Let’s not be arrogant guys your not paid like a mainline FO because there job is harder to get then ours. MLB and minor league do the same they are not paid the same wonder why.
10-21-2017, 10:58 AM
#8557
Ifly4theWIFI
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Position: I fly at CPZ, need I say more?
Posts: 38
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10-21-2017, 11:53 AM
#8558
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,267
So ridiculous that that’s how it works industry wide ?
What say you ALPA what say you airline execs? Clearly they haven’t been listening to us as compass captain must be them that’s wrong.
Let’s not be arrogant guys your not paid like a mainline FO because there job is harder to get then ours. MLB and minor league do the same they are not paid the same wonder why.
What say you ALPA what say you airline execs? Clearly they haven’t been listening to us as compass captain must be them that’s wrong.
Let’s not be arrogant guys your not paid like a mainline FO because there job is harder to get then ours. MLB and minor league do the same they are not paid the same wonder why.
If you want to make the claim that a mainline crew has more responsibility in souls on boaes than me, I'll give you credit.
As far as skill goes they do cross wind landings like us and run checkists like us.
Your baseball analogy falls apart in the face of the nature of our job.
10-21-2017, 12:28 PM
#8559
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
MLB players earn more than minor league players because of skill. A new hire fo at mainline isn't any more or less GENERALLY than a regional captain.
If you want to make the claim that a mainline crew has more responsibility in souls on boaes than me, I'll give you credit.
As far as skill goes they do cross wind landings like us and run checkists like us.
Your baseball analogy falls apart in the face of the nature of our job.
If you want to make the claim that a mainline crew has more responsibility in souls on boaes than me, I'll give you credit.
As far as skill goes they do cross wind landings like us and run checkists like us.
Your baseball analogy falls apart in the face of the nature of our job.
Sounds very familiar .
But yes we can have the CASM and RASM argument as well if that is what you prefer. Either way you slice it , it goes to the “Economy stupid “ quote not calling you stupid
10-21-2017, 12:30 PM
#8560
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Any ways I’ll agree to disagree and continue to not complain and do my best to make myself marketable and still enjoy the hell out of what I get to do now .
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