Compass Updates - Saga Continues
08-01-2017, 05:42 PM
#6291
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Im not trying to argue or split hairs. Im also not trying to sweep anything under any rug! I'm just trying to give people the most accurate information available at this time. 2year 5months vs. 2years 7months might not be that big of a deal. However, 2years 2months vs. 2years 7months, now we're talking about almost half a year and with most regionals holding somewhere between a 20-36 upgrade 5 months could be a big factor to some people out there trying to make a decision.
I would love to be able to recommend Compass to everyone out there but in reality I may or may not, it really depends on their personal situation.
I would love to be able to recommend Compass to everyone out there but in reality I may or may not, it really depends on their personal situation.
And of course the decision to come to any place depends on a person's situation. My friends put a premium on what Compass offers, and made their decisions.
08-01-2017, 05:49 PM
#6292
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Yeah go make that Mayweather money!!!!!!!!!!
The 2 year 7 mo upgrade is incorrect. Only reason is the temporary 6 month stagnation. Also, our upgrades would be going way way junior today if it wasn't for the MSP displacements. 2 years from now what happened during those 6 months will not matter since we're about to lose the top 30% of LA pilots by the end of the year. Upgrades will come down to 12-15 months again and will only be limited by the fact that FOs will have the seniority but not the 1000 hours. Cycle will repeat itself.
The 2 year 7 mo upgrade is incorrect. Only reason is the temporary 6 month stagnation. Also, our upgrades would be going way way junior today if it wasn't for the MSP displacements. 2 years from now what happened during those 6 months will not matter since we're about to lose the top 30% of LA pilots by the end of the year. Upgrades will come down to 12-15 months again and will only be limited by the fact that FOs will have the seniority but not the 1000 hours. Cycle will repeat itself.
My calculations had nothing to do with the 6 month stagnation. It's all about the balance of people in and people out. They're currently upgrading 10 a month, and at the time of hire of the current award winners, we were hiring 30 or so a month. So it takes 2-3 months of upgrades to work through 1 month of hiring 2 years ago. Actually, stagnation will help. After people hired before the stagnation can hold the upgrade, the next vacancy (presumably the following month) will go to people hired after the stagnation, so the upgrade time will drop by 6 months.
But guys, let's not lose track of the big picture. We're all in agreement that things are cautiously looking up, but we need to be upgrading much more than we are now.
08-01-2017, 05:56 PM
#6293
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Hahaha I wish, I'm working pro bono!
My calculations had nothing to do with the 6 month stagnation. It's all about the balance of people in and people out. They're currently upgrading 10 a month, and at the time of hire of the current award winners, we were hiring 30 or so a month. So it takes 2-3 months of upgrades to work through 1 month of hiring 2 years ago. Actually, stagnation will help. After people hired before the stagnation can hold the upgrade, the next vacancy (presumably the following month) will go to people hired after the stagnation, so the upgrade time will drop by 6 months.
But guys, let's not lose track of the big picture. We're all in agreement that things are cautiously looking up, but we need to be upgrading much more than we are now.
My calculations had nothing to do with the 6 month stagnation. It's all about the balance of people in and people out. They're currently upgrading 10 a month, and at the time of hire of the current award winners, we were hiring 30 or so a month. So it takes 2-3 months of upgrades to work through 1 month of hiring 2 years ago. Actually, stagnation will help. After people hired before the stagnation can hold the upgrade, the next vacancy (presumably the following month) will go to people hired after the stagnation, so the upgrade time will drop by 6 months.
But guys, let's not lose track of the big picture. We're all in agreement that things are cautiously looking up, but we need to be upgrading much more than we are now.
We are deff not hiring 30 a month. Just flew with a pilot recruiter the other day and they said they want 40/month and we aren't even getting half of that. The first two July classes were CXd because only one person showed up.
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08-01-2017, 06:19 PM
#6294
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First two July classes CX'd
Also, tomorrow MSP has zero reserve CAs and LAX has only one reserve CA. Wow
08-01-2017, 06:56 PM
#6295
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Speaking as someone in class, that's definitely not true. A lot of these rumors have been circulating about no-show classes and so far as I can see, all the bodies are here...
08-01-2017, 06:58 PM
#6296
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Some of the awarded trips begin with a SEA/LAX-DTW deadhead and overnights out of Detroit. Definitely going to be interesting. Did a random search of flights in Sept and there are 6 MSP-DFW flights a day,all CPZ
08-01-2017, 08:48 PM
#6297
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They've been assigning MSP trips to LAX reserve FOs.
08-01-2017, 08:53 PM
#6299
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That's great to know. Two years ago we had no problem attracting 30-40 candidates a month, we were turning people away. Our attrition is 20+ a month, which is awesome, but we obviously need to keep up with it. Let's hope that whatever good news were promised by the end of the month will help with hiring. My bet is the PHX base. Which would help because it would attract a new slice of the pilot population.
08-02-2017, 12:29 AM
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I doubt a new hire would see PHX any time soon if that were to happen. It would probably be a pretty senior base.
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