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07-17-2017, 05:38 PM

#6091

NeverFlexTO

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Originally Posted by WingedCelt

For those of the pilots here that have been other places with new bases or closures, how do things normally run? Do they do a phased withdrawal from one location, and then send the airplane and its allocated hours to the next? Or do they do it with all airplanes all at once?

Just curious.

Phased withdrawal, the base that is closing becomes extremely inefficient as far as the flying goes, and the airplanes are eventually slowly allocated elsewhere...keep in mind 1 airplane is typically 11 pilots, so in theory MSP is losing 1 airplane allocation a month from a crew perspective if that makes sense, new bases tend to go junior unless it's a place where there are a lot of senior pilots already live or have an easier commute...

07-17-2017, 05:41 PM

#6092

WingedCelt

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Thanks. Makes sense, but then again, there s a lot of stuff that is being done that seems reactionary rather than proactively. Hence why I ask. What should occur vs what actually happens tend to be two different things here lol.

07-17-2017, 05:44 PM

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07-17-2017, 06:08 PM

#6094

morerightrudder

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Originally Posted by WingedCelt

By regional standards, the CPZ drawdown at MSP has been relatively gradual and with reasonable notice. Previous regional I was at closed bases with less than 60 days notice.

07-17-2017, 06:12 PM

#6095

NeverFlexTO

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Originally Posted by WingedCelt

There's a lot of variables...pilots moving to majors, codeshares telling you the routes you will fly, training surges during certain times of the year, costs of assets (crew rooms, hotels, deadheads to training, etc.) what should occur today may not be what should occur tomorrow, things change daily, and the airline has to put themselves in a position to take the least amount of risk and spend the least amount doing so, as possible...

07-18-2017, 10:52 AM

#6096

week

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FAs are saying they're locked in their new base for a certain amount of months. As a pilot, if I'm forced from MSP to LAX, is there anything preventing me from jumping to SEA the next month?

07-18-2017, 11:23 AM

#6097

Rogdixon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by week

FAs are saying they're locked in their new base for a certain amount of months. As a pilot, if I'm forced from MSP to LAX, is there anything preventing me from jumping to SEA the next month?

Nope, you could jump bases every month if you are high enough up the list.

07-18-2017, 11:59 AM

#6098

TillerTemptress

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Quote:

Originally Posted by week

FAs are saying they're locked in their new base for a certain amount of months. As a pilot, if I'm forced from MSP to LAX, is there anything preventing me from jumping to SEA the next month?

A terrible commute from MSP?

Nothing contractually, though.

07-18-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by week

FAs are saying they're locked in their new base for a certain amount of months. As a pilot, if I'm forced from MSP to LAX, is there anything preventing me from jumping to SEA the next month?

As long as there is a vacancy bid out.

07-18-2017, 08:20 PM

#6100

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gojo

You're forgetting about Republic. Just a guess, but I'd be surprised if Delta keeps all three. One thing with Delta, it's hard to predict their next move

And Republic is now partly Delta Owned...

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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO

Agree, we own a sim too...that's huge, Republic uses Flightsafety solely I believe...that's a Compass controlled cost if DL or AA moves planes they also have to find a sim and time to train...

We own sims that flight safety maintain and house. We also have exclusive leases on other sims at FS. The status quo is changing and FS will likely be gone in a few years and everything will be done in house. Talk of ground breaking late this year on a sim center.