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Old 03-14-2017, 06:57 PM
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I've literally never seen morale lower at this airline than it is right now. Scary.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:08 PM
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I've literally never seen morale lower at this airline than it is right now. Scary.
On the forum or out on the line?
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:11 PM
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On the line. It's scary.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBat
I've literally never seen morale lower at this airline than it is right now. Scary.
This airline doesn't know how to deal with bad news. Our entire history has never had pilots who have been presented with bad news. There was only one route to go and that was down in terms of moral.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by middies10
This airline doesn't know how to deal with bad news. Our entire history has never had pilots who have been presented with bad news. There was only one route to go and that was down in terms of moral.
Not to mention the bottom half of our airline is staffed with people who've never dealt with bad news at ANY airline.

Things will be fine. Netline WILL get sorted out...eventually. It won't be the death of the company.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:27 PM
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Look guys, I understand things are not what they once were. That sucks! People have a right to be p!!!ed. Our pay troubles are hopefully temporary, our scheduling bugs are hopefully temporary. I am not as happy as I once was but we are the frontline. We can control things more than some think.

Captains especially, we are the guys who set the tone. If the first thing we start start complaining about is our problems what kind of tone do you think that sets for the entire trip for the whole crew? Everyone is already in a bad mood because of our current issues and thats understandable. What we don't want to have happen is that the mood affects our performance out on the line. Frowning faces and ****ed off FAs lead us down a road we do not want to go. We are here to do a job and thats provide a service to our customers. We do have challenges like this airline has never faced before but that should NOT stop you putting on a friendly face to our customers and bringing down company moral.

Again, we have every reason to be upset about the current situation but our moral does not have to be completely driven by the company. Go out there and try to put on a friendly face and have a great trip. We have great crews at this company and I still show up to work when I have to and put on a smile. The last thing I try to do is discuss our issues. It's hard not to but I want to have a good trip and leave that BS behind.

At the end of the day we have a great job. We get paid to fly around and socialize. We will all be moving on shortly. We have a few hiccups to deal with but at the end of the day I am going to try to keep my trips a good time for everyone. I know some of you will be say this guy is smoking something but haters gonna hate. Welcome to the internet.

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Old 03-14-2017, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by middies10
Look guys, I understand things are not what they once were. That sucks! People have a right to be p!!!ed. Our pay troubles are hopefully temporary, our scheduling bugs are hopefully temporary. I am not as happy as I once was but we are the frontline. We can control things more than some think.

Captains especially, we are the guys who set the tone. If the first thing we start start complaining about is our problems what kind of tone do you think that sets for the entire trip for the whole crew? Everyone is already in a bad mood because of our current issues and thats understandable. What we don't want to have happen is that the mood affects our performance out on the line. Frowning faces and ****ed off FAs do not lead us down a road we want to go. We are here to do a job and thats provide a service to our customers. We do have challenges like this airline has never faced before but that should NOT stop you putting on a friendly face to our customers and bringing down company moral.

Again, we have every reason to be upset about the current situation but our moral does not have to be completely driven by the company. Go out there and try to put on a friendly face and have a great trip. We have great crews at this company and I still show up to work when I have to and put on a smile. The last thing I try to to discuss is our issues. Its hard not to be I want to have a good trip and leave that BS behind.

At the end of the day we have a great job. We get to paid to fly around and socialize. We will all be moving on shortly. We have a few hiccups to deal with but at the end of the day I am going to try to keep my trips a good time for everyone. I know some of you will be say this guy is smoking something but haters gonna hate. Welcome to the internet.
I wish there was a "like" feature on here. Very well said!!
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:03 PM
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As a former Compass pilot I was embarrassed to read the letter your MEC chairman sent out to all of you, talk about bashing morale.

It really showed how ineffective the whole MEC has been over the past year or two. Its probably a good thing they are leaving.

Current management has done nothing to openly violate the CBA. If anything they are trying to hold things together.

The choices about IOCC and Netline and how they would reflect the CBA or violate it were made almost 3 years ago. Look to those management pilots if you want to point fingers (they are long gone and knew they would be at the time they signed it). I fly with them regularly at Delta and this is no longer their problem. You guys have an awesome group of people at your airline. Been at much worse places. Maybe a new MEC wouldn't be the worst thing. You all will be to your next step soon enough.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Work2much
The CPZ payroll email I got was from someone in MSP so they live down the road from me..not sure how thats relevant. Because Chilis is so much like running an airline...not sure how that's relevant.

I didn't ask them to fix the problem on the spot. I asked them to look into it and send me an response saying "Thanks for your inquire. We will look into it and get back to you". THATS it. A piece of mind is all I'm asking for and not too much to ask for. It's being professional on both ends. Do you honestly think a 2 sentence email is beyond reasonable? That's a serious question.

Severe weather has nothing to do with payroll unless the payroll manager is moonlighting as a dispatcher or scheduler. I just don't get why people are making excuses for a ****-poor system and the fact that payroll knew of the issues but didn't deal with it in a pro-active way. It's about dealing with the issue the right way, the professional way. TSH doesn't make Payroll's job easy at all, but a little communication goes a long way.

This is the first time in 3.5 years I've had any sort of pay issue so I'm not complaining that it's a common thing.
What if the person that's supposed to reply to your email couldn't be at work because of the sever weather? It could be the company just being retarded but we'll never know. Like I said, as long as it gets fixed in a timely manner it should work itself out. Things can happen anywhere. I gave my previous experience just as an example. I think what's important is that the company focuses on getting the front of house job done which is flying the airplanes. That's why your at that job right? What if your paycheck was spot on every time but you had a 50% cancellation rate? Would that be acceptable to you? Because I don't think it would be acceptable to the customers...
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
You'd be great in management someday! Keep up the good work!

Come on people, we're just lucky that we get paid at all!


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I'm actually a TSH manager. Flame on!
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