gojo

This seems to be the direction things are going. In my humble opinion, the non wholly owned are going to have a tough time competing. This should concern you all at Compass/GoJet. Yes, I grouped you together. Anyway, doesn't Delta own all the 175's/CRJ 700's? I think if they want them they'll find a way to get them even if it's waiting out the contract term length. In which case it would just be a non-renewal and aircraft transfer

Av8rPHX

I know they use LIDO for sure...not 100% on if they use IOCC or not


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GrassLandings

No idea what metal they own at other airlines other than the CZ registered 170/175's. But unless they can staff them FAST. I dont see them transferring them anywhere, without taking pilots too. Hear me out.
By the time our contract is up, retirements will be in full swing. So transfering 36 airplanes would be making things worse, IMO. Plus, a huge investment to take them away from a "cheap" regional. Who knows? They could stayput, go to EDV, or even mainline if staffing gets that bad at all regionals.
I think a sharp improvement to performance will be noticed once the terminal/complex swap in LAX is complete. So hopefully that means all the talk about performance goes away

TogaParty

LAX performance or lackthereof is a big topic on our side as well. LAX just cannot handle the increased schedules in its current capacity.

Av8rPHX

Daily ATC programs in LAX where mainline gets 60-120 min EDCT times and we are in the 180-320 min EDCT range doesn't do anything for our performance either.


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GrassLandings

We get put on the back burner in general by mainline, so when they review our performance they have got to be taking that into account as its their decisions. Even in DTW. We had arrived a little early from MTY with Intl gates open but inbounds due in 45min and another in 90mins. We still waited over an hour for a gate since they didnt want to risk the 767 being late my a min. We can deplane a full boat and get tugged away in 15mins...

veewan

A fight is not necessary, I'm just surprised that people accepted their explanation.

I don't have a solid source- tried messaging a friend at Delta to see if he could confirm or deny my suspicion. His title is: Team Leader, Pacific Network Planning, Delta Air Lines and I never got a response. Silence is compliance in my mind.

But think about the information available to us when they announced the aircraft going away:
They are better suited for East coast flying.
Compass has a MSP domicile. Which has pairings to MCO and EWR which if my geography is correct are on the East coast.
Why can't we build pairings for the 170 out of MSP?
Logically, at least in my mind the aircraft could do the East coast flying here at Compass.
Next SkyWest has DL color CRJ 700(70 seaters) and DL CRJ900(76 seaters) that are flying out West specifically LA, SLC, SEA, and PDX.
And their performance is better with less MX delays over the time frame in question.
During the conference call discussing the 6 aircraft, their rebuttal was that SkyWest has better "support" which is a change in explanation.
They admitted SkyWest MX was better, but they dodged the fact that SkyWest can manage 70 and 76 seat operations out West. Why can't Compass? Yes we only have (had) six, but if you plan correctly you can do it. Think about this SkyWest has successfully been able to add and remove fleets from their airline. What do you think they did when they had 1 175, or added CRJ 900s or got rid of the Brasilia? Or how about Delta when they added the 717? There are many examples of an airline successfully operating a new fleet or getting rid of one where they don't have a large number of spares. Yes it's more challenging having more than 1 fleet, but it's possible.

So you're right it would be horrible to think they would intentionally lie to us, but as others have mentioned they've heard rumors with other reasons. I could be wrong but I'm using the information available to me and deductive reasoning.

veewan

Has anyone seen sheets in the crew rooms offering voluntary transfer to GoJet? I've heard it from a FA and another pilot, but I can't believe that until I've actually seen it or someone else can confirm it.

JetDoc

Confirmed. I saw it as it was being put up about month ago. It didn't stay up very long as the next time I was in the crew trailer it was gone.

GrassLandings

How can that be possible? Different union. Different company. Different bases. Different airplane. Take a leave of absence at CZ to go sit reserve at GJ after doing CRJ training for two months? Really??? We arent that overstaffed, if at all. If we even are overstaffed, it might be for only for 4 months, max. 32 left already since Jan 1, and counting. I call Bs. Who put it up?
Seems way to far fetched to be true. Possibly someone trolling?