Poser765

Umm, why are you telling me this? I ask because you clearly didn't read my post otherwise you would have seen the part where I said "I care even less how they notify me." So what am I mad a bout? Please, point me to a post that in any way implies I am upset with how they notify me. Go on...I'll wait.

Oh, I'm sure they are all great people in scheduling. Honestly I've never had any issues with anyone over there. Lol in fact one of the first times I got called in for ready as an FO the scheduler actually apologized and thanked me for going in to do it.

*sigh* Lets you and me just stop. You are either trolling me, or are honestly incapable of reading comprehension. OK, I'll grant you my initial comment about being "triggered" by airport ready, while mostly tongue in cheek, could be taken poorly. Let me sum up my original statement again. Read slow, move your lips.

Yes sometimes I'm bummed out by having to do ready...as is almost everyone. The fact I have to do ready gets more of emotional response out of me then the words they use to notify me. THAT emotional response barely registers as a response. THUS, I couldn't care less if they say "you fell in line."

People thinking of coming to compass. These threads, while banal, pedantic, trivial, and full of people being semantic and obtuse, should really tell you just how good we have it at Compass. There is such a lack of drama that THIS is the crap we talk about. While it sometimes makes for crummy internet conversation, it generally is a good sign for the company.

Crimson

Any of you that have applied for the FFDO program, know what our airline number is?

echelon

On the topic of ready reserve, has anyone here been doing RR in LAX since we started using the Sheraton as a quiet room? Is it even remotely possible to report to the airplane within 15 minutes per the CBA? Seems like the frequency of the vans combined with traffic on the way to the terminal would make that completely impossible, but I haven't done it.

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Da40Pilot

It's impossible to do the 15 minute call while at the Sheraton. I've done it and it took us 1 hour and 5 minutes to get to the box, granted it was a weekday during rush hour. CS is obviously aware of this, and they will just say "That's fine, just get there as soon as you can". I mean, there's nothing you can do unless you get on a magic carpet to the gate while singing "A whole new world" with your FO and FAs.

We didn't get a 15 minute call out and I think those are very rare, they usually give you about 45min-1.5 hour notice which has been my experience in average.

Poser765

This all lines up with my experience. The shortest call out I've ever gotten on ready is 45 minutes...which was actually since we started using the hotel. Fortunately I was still at the airport waiting for the van TO the hotel so I didn't have to deal with that. They did very explicitly tell me to just get there whenever I can get there.

echelon

So I guess I kind of take issue with this...
And only because while being understanding of the fact that it takes a while to get there is the least the company can do, unwritten "understandings" don't have much of a place in a system that is governed by a CBA. That CBA currently states that a pilot is required to report to the aircraft within 15 minutes. If it is physically impossible for us to comply with that because of the location of the quiet room that the company provided, that section either needs to be changed, IN WRITING, or the company needs to stop assigning ready reserve until it's once again possible for all parties to comply with what is currently in place. Otherwise, what's the point of having a contract?

Poser765

I can't take issue with this at all. For something this temporary I don't think many people want to take the time to care. I do feel like I remember an email from Andy or Jeremy, or a comply memo essentially telling us to get there when we can. I couldn't find it now, so who knows.

I feel like they rely on the ready crew a lot for some reason. How much of a wrench in the gears would it be to just suspend the practice for a few weeks?

echelon

How is that our problem? I'm not one of the people that will go out of my way to be difficult, but I also happen to believe that these kinds of situations erode the legitimacy of our CBA. It doesn't do any pilots any good for some of us to pick and choose sections to waive, and we certainly don't appreciate it when the company picks and chooses which sections they want to follow. They don't have to get rid of Airport Ready all together, but there should at least be something in writing that changes the expectation to something reasonable and concrete. That should have been something they thought of when they went through the undoubtedly very involved process of initiating this move.

Poser765

I'm not saying it's our problem at all... Because you are right, it's not our problem. I was merely thinking that was maybe a reason the company didn't opt to suspend Airport ready in the meantime.

veewan

Spirit operates without ready reserves. So do some of the other airlines, why can't Compass? Saying that they don't have to get rid of it is accepting mediocrity. Especially with the way it is done here, if you want to keep ready as an option for the company make them really need you, have them pay time on ready over guarantee for the flight hour rate. SkyWest pays their pilots over guarantee at their flight hour rate for half the scheduled time with a cap of 6 (6 hours ready pays 3 hours flight pay) hours so they never see 8 hours on and they hardly get placed on ready. Imagine getting put on ready 3 times in a month and crediting 84 hours. The company has better ability to keep schedule integrity, and the pilot gets a nice pay bump.

Knowing our contract is one thing, knowing what others have will help us negotiate better in the future. We're no Mesa, but why aim low, our goal should be to have the best contract we can get.