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Old 10-11-2016, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
You must have not listened to the last conference call. We are actively pursuing new airplanes from the 2.3 billion dollar acquisition of 76-seaters Delta will make. Endeavor is opening a JFK base which will shrink their MSP operations. The Delta MEC has already agreed to amending the scope clause, otherwise Delta wouldn't be spending the 2.3 billion, and I do think their new TA will pass soon. Furthermore, remember that we are also in the process of obtaining over water certification as requested by AA. It's not a rumor, it's a fact. At some point the Caribbean flying may come. You can fact check all this by just reading the daily digest from Alpa on your inbox.
You are correct sir! No I did not, I was busy flying an airplane...
What email from alpa are you referring to? Last one I got was the 29th of sept. I dont see the above information.

Edit: It appears my alpadaily was going into the spam box.
After reading the article about the purchase, it clearly states the jets have not been purchased, pending approval from the pilots union to expand regional flying for delta. So E175 purchases, do in fact rest upon the scope language in the TA. I guess we will wait and see.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
You are correct sir! No I did not, I was busy flying an airplane...
What email from alpa are you referring to? Last one I got was the 29th of sept. I dont see the above information.

Edit: It appears my alpadaily was going into the spam box.
After reading the article about the purchase, it clearly states the jets have not been purchased, pending approval from the pilots union to expand regional flying for delta. So E175 purchases, do in fact rest upon the scope language in the TA. I guess we will wait and see.
This is of course all speculative, but, management did say in the last conference call that if Delta does purchase the jets (which I think will happen) that they are in line to getting some of those planes from that purchase. This is the first time I ever heard something as solid relating to new flying for us.

I know the Delta TA hasn't passed yet but it looks as if this one will. When it does, scope will be relaxed. That is part of the deal.

Yes, we'll wait and see, but, CP wanting to go back to hiring 40 month again when they said 20 can't possibly be just for attrition. 20 is for attrition. 40 is for something else. Just my two cents. I hope I'm not wrong.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
This is of course all speculative, but, management did say in the last conference call that if Delta does purchase the jets (which I think will happen) that they are in line to getting some of those planes from that purchase. This is the first time I ever heard something as solid relating to new flying for us.

I know the Delta TA hasn't passed yet but it looks as if this one will. When it does, scope will be relaxed. That is part of the deal.

Yes, we'll wait and see, but, CP wanting to go back to hiring 40 month again when they said 20 can't possibly be just for attrition. 20 is for attrition. 40 is for something else. Just my two cents. I hope I'm not wrong.
Have you been under a rock!!?? Delta TA has ZERO scope change!! Only way for "someone" to order and get new 175's is if "someone" losses planes. 900's..

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Old 10-11-2016, 08:12 PM
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Have you been under a rock!!?? Delta TA has ZERO scope change!! Only way for "someone" to order and get new 175's is if "someone" losses planes. 900's..
Good point. There is an operator out there with only 700's and 900's. 700's fall under 76 seat scope specs right?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:27 PM
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Haha, he was so excited.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:00 PM
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Have you been under a rock!!?? Delta TA has ZERO scope change!! Only way for "someone" to order and get new 175's is if "someone" losses planes. 900's..
Delta wants the regional airlines to fly additional 76 seaters, not just replace old 50-seaters, but fly additional. Right now, Delta is all scoped out. Their side of the new agreement, what they want to do, is to relax the scope so that will happen. The union is against it, they don't want to see that happening. But if Delta spends 2.3 billion buying 50-70 new jets, where do you think they will go? To mainline? No. To serve to replace 50 seaters? Maybe some, but I doubt it. If the 2.3 billion purchase happens it's because the scope would have to be relaxed. Delta will do anything in its power to continue saving moolah by outsourcing their flying for as long as they possibly can.
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Old 10-12-2016, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
Delta wants the regional airlines to fly additional 76 seaters, not just replace old 50-seaters, but fly additional. Right now, Delta is all scoped out. Their side of the new agreement, what they want to do, is to relax the scope so that will happen. The union is against it, they don't want to see that happening. But if Delta spends 2.3 billion buying 50-70 new jets, where do you think they will go? To mainline? No. To serve to replace 50 seaters? Maybe some, but I doubt it. If the 2.3 billion purchase happens it's because the scope would have to be relaxed. Delta will do anything in its power to continue saving moolah by outsourcing their flying for as long as they possibly can.

Here is my take on that whole thing. That 2.3mill aircraft purchase article was about 2 weeks to late. I believe Delta was looking at the ERJ's when the first Version of the TA has 50 more (thats about 2.3 at "list" price).. Then Delta ALPA held ground and so that artical is a few weeks behind the game. Games moving fast these days..
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:16 AM
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Watch delta just brand another airline again, like Delta Song.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Here is my take on that whole thing. That 2.3mill aircraft purchase article was about 2 weeks to late. I believe Delta was looking at the ERJ's when the first Version of the TA has 50 more (thats about 2.3 at "list" price).. Then Delta ALPA held ground and so that artical is a few weeks behind the game. Games moving fast these days..
I think you're referring to the E190s they were originally going to purchase from Boeing? Eithe way, one way or the other, I have a good feeling we'll be getting new flying sometime next year, wether it's with Delta or AA.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:21 AM
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Someone mentioned Caribbean flying up thread a bit....MIA base? :stir:


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