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06-14-2018, 11:54 PM

#12851

VIRotate

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Originally Posted by my6FOh

Go ask someone in recruiting. You can call all the b.s. you want, but the facts are the facts. The earliest class dates are in September. We're running one class every two weeks now. Indefinitely doesn't mean the same thing to compass or tsh as it does to everyone else.

I can assure you classes are full until August, running a class every week. I'm not going to post on here how I have that information but feel free to PM me.

06-15-2018, 03:41 AM

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havick206

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Originally Posted by gojo

Could just be a fake carrot for Skywest management to entice more yes votes for their latest pay proposal

You give upper management in aviation way too much credit

06-15-2018, 06:49 AM

#12853

my6FOh

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Originally Posted by VIRotate

I can assure you classes are full until August, running a class every week. I'm not going to post on here how I have that information but feel free to PM me.

They are full until September and they just made the decision last week to cut them in half. It sucks but it's a fact.

06-15-2018, 07:47 AM

#12854

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by my6FOh

They are full until September and they just made the decision last week to cut them in half. It sucks but it's a fact.

By September the FO shortage will have faded (at 40 per month) and started to become a captain shortage. Do the numbers. Twenty FOs a month will sustain FO attrition while they make up for the senior guys that already have the letter they know they will be losing.

It ain't a bad thing, it's queuing theory. You really think they need to train 40 FOs a month, 480 FOs a year,on a full time basis? In perpetuity?

When was the last time Compass ever HAD 480 FOs? If they did that, upgrade time would go to ... Well, damn near as bad as for the E-175 guys at Skywest. And junior FOs would sit reserve (I know, what's a reserve?) forever.

Get a grip, people.

06-15-2018, 08:22 AM

#12855

GrassLandings

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Originally Posted by my6FOh

They are full until September and they just made the decision last week to cut them in half. It sucks but it's a fact.

Ok, are you saying that starting in Sept they are down to 20 a month? Or cut the remaining summer classes until then in half as well? The first post made it sound like the latter.

06-15-2018, 09:32 AM

#12856

my6FOh

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Originally Posted by GrassLandings

Ok, are you saying that starting in Sept they are down to 20 a month? Or cut the remaining summer classes until then in half as well? The first post made it sound like the latter.

They're cutting the classes to two a month for the summer and resuming normal classes in the fall.

06-15-2018, 10:55 AM

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word302

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Originally Posted by my6FOh

They're cutting the classes to two a month for the summer and resuming normal classes in the fall.

Is that not standard summer ops for you guys? I think most places cut the training back during summer to get all hands on deck to fly.

06-15-2018, 11:57 AM

#12858

ThePlaneSaidSo

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Your mom cuts classes in the summer..........oh!!

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06-15-2018, 04:24 PM

#12859

my6FOh

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Originally Posted by word302

Is that not standard summer ops for you guys? I think most places cut the training back during summer to get all hands on deck to fly.

No, it's generally been hire as many as we can.

06-15-2018, 07:50 PM

#12860

prplmnkydshwshr

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Standard CPZ staffing model: get almost caught up to proper staffing, then cut way back to save money until staffing is critical, then go bat crap crazy trying to get caught up again, rinse, repeat...