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03-24-2018, 12:36 AM
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03-24-2018, 05:39 AM
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Agree not all CFIs but for the most part its some of those who came from big name aerospace schools...erau, und etc. Bonus points for flying team members. I’ve heard they had their own title (God’s gift to aviation). They are the ones who look at the very fine details and create drama. Unless they plan to be an airline lifer up to and after retirement they should be ok. But be cautious about joining 91/135 ops because they won’t make it. Many stories of fired pilots from “always writing something up”
03-24-2018, 08:19 AM
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That's funny because in the other thread (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/compass-airlines/112195-compass-house-training-flight-safety-2.html) it was the CFIs who came from "mom and pop" flight schools that were the problem. Now, I guess ots the CFIs who came from the big schools.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
03-24-2018, 08:32 AM
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Most serious thing I've seen you say on here before. Well said.
03-24-2018, 08:36 AM
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That's funny because in the other thread (Compass - in-house training or flight safety) it was the CFIs who came from "mom and pop" flight schools that were the problem. Now, I guess ots the CFIs who came from the big schools.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
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03-24-2018, 08:42 AM
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That's funny because in the other thread (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/compass-airlines/112195-compass-house-training-flight-safety-2.html) it was the CFIs who came from "mom and pop" flight schools that were the problem. Now, I guess ots the CFIs who came from the big schools.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
03-24-2018, 08:58 AM
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03-24-2018, 09:09 AM
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That's funny because in the other thread (Compass - in-house training or flight safety) it was the CFIs who came from "mom and pop" flight schools that were the problem. Now, I guess ots the CFIs who came from the big schools.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
03-24-2018, 11:35 AM
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That's funny because in the other thread (Compass - in-house training or flight safety) it was the CFIs who came from "mom and pop" flight schools that were the problem. Now, I guess ots the CFIs who came from the big schools.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
Why don't we just give this whole discussion a rest. It is pretty irrelevant and counter productive if you ask me. We shouldn't be dividing ourselves up and isolating certain people from the pilot group and blaming crap on them. It just makes some of you sound pretty self righteous. If you flew 172s, so what. If you flew beech 99s, so what. Of you flew helos, awesome. It all just makes for good day 1 conversations, but it doesnt really matter anymore does it? Were all here now, and need to back each other up.
I love it when someone asks me what I did before compass, in a way that is clearly sizing me up, as if going to a 135 first will make the difference on my next landing. Or bragging that compass is your second or third airline as if that makes you like an OG of aviation that we should all bow down too. What did I did before compass? I drank out of a paper bag outside a McDonalds, so.. what does that mean for my next mx write up?
Ya know, some of us were cfis for 15 years because we couldnt afford pay-for-training shops back in the day, and we couldn't support a family on $17 hr at the regionals.
Personally, I've decided not to be impressed with any of you, so that I can actually be your friend and always be interested in how you were able to get where you are now.
It's easy to blame things on someone's background, but success in training and on the line almost always rests on attitude, personality, teachability, and often life circumstances, the intangible stuff. Not how someone got their time.
If you have a problem with someone coming here from being a CFI first, welcome to the new reality of aviation, it isn't necessary for guys to fly canceled bank checks at night in worn out C310s anymore, times have changed for the better at the moment. Almost of you started in small prop planes, and went to your first jet at some point, or first airline, so stop acting like you are different than everyone else. It sounds like you want us all to be impressed with you, pretty lame.
Btw, this is not directed at any one person, but there has been a general subtle contempt for guys at our airline who were CFIs first, and it really needs to stop.
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