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Old 03-09-2018, 09:24 PM
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Nothing on the RAH forums mentions this at the moment. Also why wouldn’t they mention LAX?

Whole thing sounds fishy
Personal source. Not forum. Friends from way back. That's all I'm saying.

Personally though if this rumor is true I think it should make us more desirable to new hires. It means we have some job security beyond our carrier contracts expiring. It also means if you get in now you can lock in a west coast base before merging seniority lists. Plus we can ditch Lido and Lufthansa software. I would love to go back to Jepp and Flica. My one concern would be losing ALPA.

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Old 03-09-2018, 10:56 PM
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Personal source. Not forum. Friends from way back. That's all I'm saying.

Personally though if this rumor is true I think it should make us more desirable to new hires. It means we have some job security beyond our carrier contracts expiring. It also means if you get in now you can lock in a west coast base before merging seniority lists. Plus we can ditch Lido and Lufthansa software. I would love to go back to Jepp and Flica. My one concern would be losing ALPA.
IF...

Personally, I wouldn't mind. Say what you will about RAH, but they know how to run a regional.
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Old 03-10-2018, 12:47 AM
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At this point I'd rather merge with RAH... my upgrade is going to be 2.5 years at the very least it seems. RAH is approaching that anyways. I would also get to end my coast-to-coast commute. With the long upgrade, cancelling of vacations, 85 hour lines, junior manning, min days off...why even commute the distance anymore?

Envoy is accepting direct entry captains. I mean yeah I would be on RSV forever in New York but at least I will stay in my own timezone...

The continued cancelling of vacations and throttled upgrades really killed any moral I had left. I am sure I am not the only 1.5-2 year FO that feels the same either.
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:40 AM
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At this point I'd rather merge with RAH... my upgrade is going to be 2.5 years at the very least it seems. RAH is approaching that anyways. I would also get to end my coast-to-coast commute. With the long upgrade, cancelling of vacations, 85 hour lines, junior manning, min days off...why even commute the distance anymore?

Envoy is accepting direct entry captains. I mean yeah I would be on RSV forever in New York but at least I will stay in my own timezone...

The continued cancelling of vacations and throttled upgrades really killed any moral I had left. I am sure I am not the only 1.5-2 year FO that feels the same either.
If Republic purchased Compass there would be no “merger” it would be an acquisition and a staple job...Section 1 wouldn’t matter
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:59 AM
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If Republic purchased Compass there would be no “merger” it would be an acquisition and a staple job...Section 1 wouldn’t matter
Oh I'm sure there would be SOME integration. Nobody wins with an sli, though. Of course it's all hypothetical right now.
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Old 03-10-2018, 06:19 AM
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Oh I'm sure there would be SOME integration. Nobody wins with an sli, though. Of course it's all hypothetical right now.
Integration doesn’t happen if another company purchases you, they can do whatever they want...including shut you down...see Colgan...the SLI occurred there because all carriers were ALPA. It would be to there benefit for morale purposes to integrate, but I guarantee you there union would fight tooth and nail for a staple job
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Serenity
Personal source. Not forum. Friends from way back. That's all I'm saying.

Personally though if this rumor is true I think it should make us more desirable to new hires. It means we have some job security beyond our carrier contracts expiring. It also means if you get in now you can lock in a west coast base before merging seniority lists. Plus we can ditch Lido and Lufthansa software. I would love to go back to Jepp and Flica. My one concern would be losing ALPA.
How quick does merging seniority lists usually take with a merger? As someone who’s starting here in June, I’m hopefull I can get to LAX, before any merging of seniority lists (if that even happens).
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by VIRotate
At this point I'd rather merge with RAH... my upgrade is going to be 2.5 years at the very least it seems. RAH is approaching that anyways. I would also get to end my coast-to-coast commute. With the long upgrade, cancelling of vacations, 85 hour lines, junior manning, min days off...why even commute the distance anymore?

Envoy is accepting direct entry captains. I mean yeah I would be on RSV forever in New York but at least I will stay in my own timezone...

The continued cancelling of vacations and throttled upgrades really killed any moral I had left. I am sure I am not the only 1.5-2 year FO that feels the same either.
I'm with you man. I don't commute from the coast, instead I moved. Every month I consider leaving to go closer to home but the upgrade just dangles right above me. Keep me updated with what you decide to do because I may do the same.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:28 AM
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How quick does merging seniority lists usually take with a merger? As someone who’s starting here in June, I’m hopefull I can get to LAX, before any merging of seniority lists (if that even happens).
IF THIS ISN'T JUST SMOKE...it would still take a few months to go through the paperwork. You would probably be fine.

"Among the key provisions in U.S. antitrust law is one designed to prevent anticompetitive mergers or acquisitions. Under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act, the FTC and the Department of Justice review most of the proposed transactions that affect commerce in the United States and are over a certain size, and either agency can take legal action to block deals that it believes would “substantially lessen competition.” Although there are some exemptions, for the most part current law requires companies to report any deal that is valued at more than $84.4 million to the agencies so they can be reviewed."
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
Integration doesn’t happen if another company purchases you, they can do whatever they want...including shut you down...see Colgan...the SLI occurred there because all carriers were ALPA. It would be to there benefit for morale purposes to integrate, but I guarantee you there union would fight tooth and nail for a staple job
If RAH bought us and just stapled us I can promise you our attrition would be horrible. That would be RAH buying a certificate for the flying then not being able to fly it. What the teamsters would fight tooth and nail for would be an integration that benefits them...There is no way there would be a pure integration based on DOH.

This also assuming they don't just keep us a separate certificate like they did with Frontier. Separate cert, union, and list.
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