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Old 12-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by blastoff
You don't need an ATP for a PIC type. Many pilots at the Commercial level have PIC types...just need to be an ATP to use it in 121.
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I don't know why so many pilots have a hard time understanding this concept. What do you got, 3 or 4 PIC type ratings before you evan had ATP mins?

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I could see CPZ doing it a while back for the purposes of when the upgrade was relatively quick, and YES, it's good to require a newhire to have an ATP, or ATP mins. Doesn't change the fact that a PIC type rating issuance ISN'T dependent on possessing an ATP, nor doing doing the ATP while on the type ride.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:31 PM
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I don't get why everyone thinks Compass is so great. I make more flying my 50 seater around than the mini Airbus that they operate. I guess people don't really care what they make now as long as they are promised they can flow up and fly a 747 someday. I love to fly and I would do it for free.
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Eh 2 out of 10. I'm sure your flamebaiting skills will improve with time.
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Eh 2 out of 10. I'm sure your flamebaiting skills will improve with time.
2 of 10 is a weak effort. Creating a flamebait grading scale is priceless.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
I don't get why everyone thinks Compass is so great. I make more flying my 50 seater around than the mini Airbus that they operate. I guess people don't really care what they make now as long as they are promised they can flow up and fly a 747 someday. I love to fly and I would do it for free.
Actually at the interview now, the only 2 questions they ask are:

"do you really want to fly a 747 someday?"

and

"do you think our neat mini airbus is better than the really cool 50 seater at your last airline that furloughed you"

...oh wait... think about the last one really hard there....

By the way, I give him a 1 out of 10 for zero creativity.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:22 PM
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big regional jets over there for not a lot of money, that's all i'm saying. it costs the company nothing to dangle for the flow through so you'll give them a few years of very cheap labor. Compass is directly replacing the DC-9, arguably more than other regionals out there. I sat next to a Compass pilot commuting about 10 months ago and he's was going on and on about how delta was going to make them park with the rest of the RJ's in msp, kinda like he was above the rest of us. I know a few great guys over there but this guy was a piece of work. There are better $24,000 a year jobs out there. Trying for more than 2/10 this time, i though that was a bit low
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:39 PM
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Also keep in mind that if Delta furloughs they have to get rid of 76 seaters. I don't think Delta wants to get rid 76 seaters because they make money. I don't know of the ratio but I think for each X amount DL furloughs, another 76 seater has to get parked. Maybe someone that actually works for DL and knows their scope will chime in.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Also keep in mind that if Delta furloughs they have to get rid of 76 seaters. I don't think Delta wants to get rid 76 seaters because they make money. I don't know of the ratio but I think for each X amount DL furloughs, another 76 seater has to get parked. Maybe someone that actually works for DL and knows their scope will chime in.
not parked..but i'm pretty sure they have to take out 6 seats to make em 70 seaters
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:02 PM
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Also keep in mind that if Delta furloughs they have to get rid of 76 seaters. I don't think Delta wants to get rid 76 seaters because they make money. I don't know of the ratio but I think for each X amount DL furloughs, another 76 seater has to get parked.
So if Delta furloughs, then Compass has to park some of their 175's? What is the purpose of that? So that Delta can take that route back from CPZ and bring back their furloughs quicker or what?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:08 PM
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So if Delta furloughs, then Compass has to park some of their 175's? What is the purpose of that? So that Delta can take that route back from CPZ and bring back their furloughs quicker or what?
Converting 76 seaters to 70 seaters forces the RJ to be a single class. In the 76 seat configuration, both 1st class and coach class are available allowing DAL to offer a premium product on an RJ. It's something that is very valuable to DAL, and is why DALPA worked this into the No Furlough clause.
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