GoHomeLeg

Not saying I disagree with what you're saying but training is paid and your post implies it is not.

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Da40Pilot

That depends on how you look at it. I rather look at the glass half full....

You should see it as when you start on reserve, not when you start training. Some regionals, like Skywest, only give you a 65 hour min guarantee during training.

So in essence, if you make Day 1 on reserve your 1st day of actual "line pay", you'll actually end up making way more than 40k, cause you'll have 3.5 months of Year 2 mixed in there.

Whatever they pay you during regional airline new hire training is a joke, it's not even enough to cover food while you're away!

Taylor814ce

What's causing training to be 3.5 months long?
Where are they sending the new hire for the sim?
What's the pay during training?

Thanks

pilotwithnoname

You're right. But it's not paid guarantee from the start. My point is that for several months you're not going to get "90 to 95" hours of credit at $35.81, so making $40k in your first year is all but impossible.

GoHomeLeg

Gotcha. I did some math just now and you can get very close even with a month or two of reserve.

Overall the moral/working conditions at at Compass are much better than the other regional airlines I've been at (Pinnacle and Republic). Personally I believe there is some added value to that.

My 2 cents.

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pilotwithnoname

Totally agree. But I think saying 40k first year is disingenuous. Of course you can probably get there, but for 95% of people they aren't going to be trying to get 100 hours every month. And some airlines really do have 40k 1st year pay based on a 75 hour line.

But like you said, pay isn't everything. #isurvivedRAHtoo

Rama04

Baffled is the right word. I share your sentiments.
Tool of the day award to them for posting in the compass thread. Smh

conquestdz

A failure at GoJet Airlines is affecting Delta and United flyers - Quartz
In other news:
I can't wait for our turn to switch to the new Lufthansa dispatch software.

404yxl

Coming to Compass over Endeavor in 2013-spring 2015 was a no brainer, but I would choose Endeavor over Compass, outside of living on the west coast, if I were starting out right now. The flow attrition at Compass is over and Endeavor is only starting to pick up their flow (pilots who already passed the interview) in the coming years. On top of that Endeavor pays all their payscales $20K/year extra, so you do the math, $20K/year or $60K extra for 3 more years, or $10-15K extra for the next 3 years?

Plus, Endeavor is negotiating for extra contractual improvements with Delta right now that will probably sweeten the pot even more.

Point being, this isn't the low pay, airplane parking Endeavor and Compass growing and flowing scenario we had 2 years ago. Up until this summer I thought Compass was the better choice, now I would give a hard look to Endeavor first.

middies10

Good. Let them figure out what they screwed up before they roll it out here.


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