johnboy9875

Any of you guys surfers? If the Compass junior base is LAX, i'm considering applying mainly to live somewhere i can surf on days off. I'm from the east coast and not very familiar with L.A. Is it possible to survive on 1st year pay? Cheap beach shacks to rent? Would it be worth it? Compass seems like on of the more respectable regionals from what I've gathered.

Fpmx772

So i have an interview next wed and I'm heading out the night before. Im current 121 somewhere else and wondering if they will fly me out and if so when do I get my travel info? thanks

Ar Pilot

It seems to be a gentleman's agreement with the company. I remember them just publishing the vote online if you wanted ADTG or 4 hour calendar day pay. Obviously the contract still says 4 hours of pay for a duty period and the LOA about ADTG. But, no, I haven't seen any actual language on the 4 hour calendar day pay.

phalanxo

Don't respond to FAAGoldSealCFI, if you look at his other posts it's reaaallly clearly just a troll account that was created. Somebody is bored on the internet.
Fpmx, they sent me my travel info when they scheduled my interview. Pos space and actually not even on Delta. If you didn't get it, I would shoot them a quick email.

Turbosina

Sure, you can rent a beach studio for only about $3K/month.

(Seriously. Check out rents in Santa Monica, Venice Beach, etc.)...

tunes

Don't we still get 4 hours min pay for a day worked even if we don't block 4.0?


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BlueMoon

Yes, but I believe if you voluntarily dropped below 4 hours, you would only get what you flew.

Example...3 leg last day and you dropped or traded the last two legs. You would only get block or better on the leg you flew.

No idea if that applies to your situation.

Ar Pilot

Judging by one of my trips, this is true. Dropped a turn and I'm only getting paid 3:23

123rule

yeah, but I commute from San Diego. PM if you want any more info.

404yxl

We're not past the 2014-06, it is in full effect. The first LOA, 2014-01 was the first to set the ground rules that led to 2014-06 and it stated the same thing about '4 hour of credit for a calendar day away from base for which no duty is assigned'.

We were always getting '4 hours of pay for a calendar day away from base for which no duty is assigned' however, when we were finalizing the contract the company decided it was pay only, and not pay and credit.

We fought them to arbitration (per LOA 2014-01) and instead of leading it in the hands of the arbitrator, we settled with the company to guarantee we would get '4 hours of pay and credit for a calendar day away from base for which no duty is assigned' after a 6 month trial period with the ADTG (per 2014-06).

Why did we agree to the 6 month trial? Because the company said it could take a while to program PBS to reflect the change appropriately. Now whether or not that would take months, we still wanted the extra credit reflected immediately. That is why the ADTG came to be, as a way for us to capture more credit from the start of that agreement.

There is nothing to help you with FAI unless we amend the rules to state something along the line of 'any flight blocking in before 0200' or 'an extra 4:00 of pay and credit for every less duty periods than the calendar days the trip operates on'. Or the company can agree to give you the 4:00 of pay and credit, but I don't think they will just go for that with the language in our contract.

You could see 3 day trips to FAI worth as little as 8:00 or a turn worth 7:00. With the ADTG, the minimum the 3 day would have paid would have been 14:15 and 9:30 with a turn since it would touch 2 days. I fully expect people to come on here and rail on me for saying so, but it is the truth. The ADTG is over, but that is what we agreed to go away from with going to the option we currently have.

Just food for thought in future negotiations.

Because the language doesn't exist. A 4:00 min day provision never existed. If we truly wanted it, we did a poor job putting it in our disputed language in the LOA. Instead we agreed to dispute whether we would get '4 hour of credit for a calendar day away from base for which no duty is assigned'.

I can't tell if you are being serious or digging for a response. From our past discussions, I'm pretty sure you know how it works.

Our contract has always stated you lose the min duty period credit of 4:00 when you drop below 4:00. At that point, you only get flight credit for the duty period. The great thing about the ADTG is that it didn't say you lost anything when you dropped below it. Your min duty credits would go down, but the ADTG wouldn't and would insulate the minimum you would get paid. I remember seeing pilots dropping all the turns off their 4 days originally worth 20:00 and with the ADTG, they still got paid 19:00, while now they can get as little as 10:00.