Edgecrusher28

This brings up a question I had awhile back, but from what I have gathered by asking around. It seems people suggest applying or minimally getting the ball rolling around three months prior to meeting the ATP hour requirements? What is your take on this? Anyone know who to talk to over at CPZ specifically?

Thanks!

gojo

I can't claim that is better than Compass. I've never worked for Compass. I can tell you that it's not a bad place today. When I crossed to the Pinnacle side after the Mesaba acquisition I was shocked at the difference between the two companies. Much of the bitterness is gone, except for those that left during the tumultuous times that can't let go

FLYZERG

9E will have continuted attrition via SSP, 20k bonus. At this point 9E has more to offer, unless were talking about bases. I came from 9E too, the bell curve is real now. I have been treated the same from one regional to another. Cheerleading opinions about one regional or another is ridiculous.

404yxl

You may have heard planning wrong in what they were telling you. Just think about how you could possibly hire and upgrade the required pilots for the 40 flows leaving from August 1st-September 4th. There were 70 to flow as of August 1st, but 20 just left, leaving just 50 remaining. 20 more will go in early September and another 20 in early October. After that, about 10 total will go over November through February 2016. Last 2 regular flows hired at Delta in August and management hold backs.

With that said, we have already hired and upgraded for most of the remaining flows. Just because the flow pilots are still here, does not mean the upgrades for their departure still exists. The last upgrade bid was for October 2015, which was to replace the last bulk of the flows leaving.

The same can be said for the AA planes. All the hiring and upgrades for the AA planes delivered through October have already been awarded. You cannot base future new hire and upgrade slots on how many we have now. You have to base it on the future bids that are available. Since we have already awarded all new hires and upgrades for October, you have to base the availability from then onwards, which is why hiring and upgrading for the flow is over.

Hiring and upgrading for AA will continue, but if we currently have 12 planes, then figure at least 15 by the end of October, meaning they only have to hire and upgrade for no more than 5 airplanes and any increase in block hours.

The parking of airplanes at Endeavor has stopped and all of their pilots are getting paid $20,000/year over their base pay, which we do not have at Compass. The also will have a higher attrition rate than Compass since the Compass flow has ended, opening more slots to Endeavor pilots.

Unless something changes with Compass, if I had 0 121 time, I would go to Endeavor over Compass right now.

middies10

We have 8 AA planes fwiw

Rama04

Delta is shopping around for somebody to take more E175s. They're ether cause Republic is canceling too many flights or the scope left - I think around 23 more "large RJs". Skywest is tapped out and Endeavor said no to starting a new program. So who's left? Airplanes coming soon to CP...

AlaskaBound

You're also not very smart

gojo

Jeez Alaska, everyone's entitled to an opinion, and people see things differently. You tend to belittle people that voice a different opinion than you. Why is that? Talk about not being very smart, jeez

404yxl

I was making a guess off a previous post, but if it's just 8, lets go off of 2/month that they said they would staff for. That would mean 2 in August, 2 in September, and 2 in October that are more than likely already awarded for in the bids we have already had. The next bid is for November. If we say 10 pilots/plane, then they need to still hire 60 pilots and upgrade 30 more for the remaining 6 AA planes, from November onwards, on top of our regular attrition.

That could happen. If they get 175's and they go to Compass, that would change our dynamics back to what we have been seeing. That said, if the regionals are struggling to staff, Delta could decide to bring that flying back to mainline in the form of larger jets, requiring more mainline pilots, but less overall.

Going forward, the only regionals that can hire for the increasing attrition, are those paying at least $10,000/year more than they currently do to their pilots.

He seems to have a crutch on his shoulder since he left Endeavor and then they were all awarded $20,000/bonus on top of their yearly pay. The shrinking over there has stopped and their attrition should be better than Compass, now that the flow has ended here. Once our growth ends, the artificial attrition we have been gaining at Compass will also be the same as Endeavor. For some reason, he refuses to acknowledge the changing dynamics with the Endeavor situation, which is probably due to him still trying to justify his decision to leave Endeavor to Compass, which I agree was a good one at the time and still was due to the seniority he gained coming to Compass.

tunes

i see them going to skywest before compass