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Old 07-27-2015, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotLife4me
Good to know, thanks!

I've been reading that Delta as a result of the rejected TA, is going to excercise 175 options apparently 30 of them. This is obviously pure speculation at this point, and most likely a negotiation tactic but have there been any rumblings at Compass? I know you guys are crazy busy as it is...but I have to ask.

Based on our current performance I doubt they want to give them to us...but who knows


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Old 07-27-2015, 08:04 PM
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Based on our current performance I doubt they want to give them to us...but who knows
What's the current performance?
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
Based on our current performance I doubt they want to give them to us...but who knows


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I've not been on the line for long but every delay I've encountered has been either station or gate related. I think DL finally realized that after they started the LAX-SFO shuttle and expanding the mainline flying out of LAX. Not to mention runway construction in LAX for what, the next two years?
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotLife4me
Good to know, thanks!
I've been reading that Delta as a result of the rejected TA, is going to excercise 175 options apparently 30 of them. This is obviously pure speculation at this point, and most likely a negotiation tactic but have there been any rumblings at Compass? I know you guys are crazy busy as it is...but I have to ask.
The Delta TA would have allowed 50 more 76 seat options on top of those 30. Not sure the exact 76 seat cap at Delta, but it is around 323 and the TA would have allowed 50 more up around 373.

The TA was just a way for Delta to replace more of their aging 50 seat jets with more efficient 76 seat jets, since they are almost to the current cap (30 away). Now, their options are to refurbish the 50 seat aircraft and try to staff them at the regional level, or transition the flying to mainline.
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:13 PM
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A captain told me a while back that our performance is so bad that it is below contractual standards with Delta. I know LAX brings down our entire operation but damn.
My buddy at OO is a fan of telling me that if their new pay package goes through they will get Delta 175 flying so I highly doubt we will see new Delta flying.
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jarretk
A captain told me a while back that our performance is so bad that it is below contractual standards with Delta. I know LAX brings down our entire operation but damn.
My buddy at OO is a fan of telling me that if their new pay package goes through they will get Delta 175 flying so I highly doubt we will see new Delta flying.
The LAX flying itself shouldn't affect the Delta-Compass agreement. The only thing that affects their agreement is the controllable completion factor which is due to Compass staffing their company appropriately. That's how Delta and United kicked Mesa to the curb a few years back and is probably what is happening over at Republic.

The new pay package at Skywest is the same mold as what Compass is doing by giving $10K bonus to new hires only. It only compensates new pilots more while not giving anything to the current pilots. So, in a way you should tell your buddy Compass is already doing that, even though it is against the contract. Not sure why the Skywest pilots would want to vote that in though.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:05 AM
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Before everyone gets worked up about additional aircraft, maybe we should stop and think about why the Delta Pilots are rejecting their TA. Whatever their reason for rejection, standing is support of an ALPA Pilot is the preferred side, not the side that punishes the ALPA Pilot group for standing up for improving the industries standards. I personally don't want to be a part of the whipsaw that might affect a mianline partner, especially one who has offered a flow thru program. You might win a battle, but when you **** off a mineline pilot group, you will definitely not win the war.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:12 AM
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So you are ok with whipsawing another regional as long it's no mainline.
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
The LAX flying itself shouldn't affect the Delta-Compass agreement. The only thing that affects their agreement is the controllable completion factor which is due to Compass staffing their company appropriately. That's how Delta and United kicked Mesa to the curb a few years back and is probably what is happening over at Republic.

The new pay package at Skywest is the same mold as what Compass is doing by giving $10K bonus to new hires only. It only compensates new pilots more while not giving anything to the current pilots. So, in a way you should tell your buddy Compass is already doing that, even though it is against the contract. Not sure why the Skywest pilots would want to vote that in though.
Um. That's not their pay package at all. They add some little compensation and QOL improvements, but what you're referring to is new hire pay rates going to $30/hr with option of $36/hr. No bonus. Also no promise of DL E175s, that's just gossip.
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl

The new pay package at Skywest is the same mold as what Compass is doing by giving $10K bonus to new hires only. It only compensates new pilots more while not giving anything to the current pilots. So, in a way you should tell your buddy Compass is already doing that, even though it is against the contract. Not sure why the Skywest pilots would want to vote that in though.
Sorry but that's off. There are several items besides hourly rate but they add up to about a 5% raise across the board. Also a trip rig, extra guaranteed day off line/reserve and several other things.
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