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Old 06-08-2015, 07:44 AM
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I wish you luck in getting your question answered. I asked a few posts ago. No answer. I think people are: 1) tired of the question; or, 2) it's hard to determine. I'm in same boat as you. Trying to make the best career decision for my family but super hard decision.

Only 76 more pilots with guaranteed flow to DAL. That's only 4 more months.

If anyone see's a functional crystal ball, please let me know.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wannabe22
I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death but thought I'd ask anyways...I have an interview this week with Compass and wondering what it looks like for a guy with enough of 121 to upgrade? Any guess at how long it may take? How long to hold MSP as a FO or CA? What is pay during training like?

Thanks for any insight you can offer. Tough decisions to make. Have 2 little ones at home I still need to cloth and feed.

Thanks again for any insight....
No one can answer your question accurately. The elephant in the room is how many people that have been bypassed will be reaching their 1,000. My opinion is a lot of people will start to reach those numbers. A lot being 15 to 30 guys a month. Which if its on the low end, new guys will be upgraded. On the upper end, only bypasses will be upgraded. I personally know a lot of people who were bypassed that are within a couple hundred hours of their 1,000. So thats only a 2 to 3 months away from an upgrade. So take it for its worth, and its only my opinion.

I would think you could hold MSP within a few months. You will sit reserve longer than you would at LAX, but if you live there, then its not a big deal. As CA, I wouldn't expect to hold MSP for a long time if you don't get on the line for 3-4 months.

You get around 700 bucks during your two week home study (guys correct me if I am wrong). Once you get to class you are making your 75 hour guarantee.

Hopefully that helps a little bit
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:58 AM
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MSP as FO, a couple months. As a CA, well currently takes 3 years to hold it at the bottom.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:11 AM
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/all-things-travel-delta-has-plans-for-boston/

Will Compass be asked to do some BOS flying in the near future?
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SigHansen
I wish you luck in getting your question answered. I asked a few posts ago. No answer. I think people are: 1) tired of the question; or, 2) it's hard to determine. I'm in same boat as you. Trying to make the best career decision for my family but super hard decision.

Only 76 more pilots with guaranteed flow to DAL. That's only 4 more months.

If anyone see's a functional crystal ball, please let me know.
Even though the guaranteed flows will be gone soon there will still be attrition. Hardly anyone I know wants to stay at Compass long-term (except the few at the top about to retire). With all of the Majors hiring Compass will still lose a bunch of guys (that's a relative term) to the majors. Every single regional airline out there is hiring like crazy because majors are sucking up the captains and some FOs. Compass will be no different. Upgrades and hiring will continue at high rates I think. The rate at which guys will leave may slow down a little but hiring will continue.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:38 AM
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Hey guys, I have a June 18th orientation in MSP. Was wondering if anyone interested in sharing a room for the night. If interested please PM me. Thanks
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
Even though the guaranteed flows will be gone soon there will still be attrition. Hardly anyone I know wants to stay at Compass long-term (except the few at the top about to retire). With all of the Majors hiring Compass will still lose a bunch of guys (that's a relative term) to the majors. Every single regional airline out there is hiring like crazy because majors are sucking up the captains and some FOs. Compass will be no different. Upgrades and hiring will continue at high rates I think. The rate at which guys will leave may slow down a little but hiring will continue.
It's also worth noting that Compass' attrition sans flow should be higher than the average at other regionals. With some exceptions Compass required a four year degree. This means almost all Compass pilots meet the degree requirement for the legacy carriers and other carriers requiring a four year degree.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerMan
It's also worth noting that Compass' attrition sans flow should be higher than the average at other regionals. With some exceptions Compass required a four year degree. This means almost all Compass pilots meet the degree requirement for the legacy carriers and other carriers requiring a four year degree.
I'll play devil's advocate.

In comparison to other regional CA groups, non flow Compass CAs are far younger with low average turbine PIC experience. Most want out, but I don't think by and large they are as competitive on average to CAs at most places who have been CAs many years waiting for a major to call. I'd wager by years end the majority of CAs here won't even have 1k PIC. I hope we all have steady movement but I don't personally see it being higher than most places outside the fact that we have few lifers.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
I'll play devil's advocate.

In comparison to other regional CA groups, non flow Compass CAs are far younger with low average turbine PIC experience. Most want out, but I don't think by and large they are as competitive on average to CAs at most places who have been CAs many years waiting for a major to call. I'd wager by years end the majority of CAs here won't even have 1k PIC. I hope we all have steady movement but I don't personally see it being higher than most places outside the fact that we have few lifers.
There are a couple majors that actually score based on career progression and how quickly one moves up. There have been plenty of Captain's lately hired with less than 1000 TPIC, I have heard 0-500 TPIC and 2500-3500 TT at United and Delta.

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Old 06-08-2015, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SigHansen
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/all-things-travel-delta-has-plans-for-boston/

Will Compass be asked to do some BOS flying in the near future?
That is a rumor. Remember also, Delta has scope for 30 additional 76 seat jets. If the expansion is that big, it could involve more planes for that partner.
SEAs growth has been slower and smaller than originally planned.
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