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Old 05-27-2015, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
when is carrying paper jepps going to stop?
If they approve LIDO, hopefully never. Electronic Jepps would be a dream com true compared to LIDO. LIDO's are garbage IMO. Other airlines have tried them, and dropped them. All for the same reason. They just are not quality. Typos, missprints, important info either not on the chart or burried in the textuals. With jepps all the info you need is right in the chart. With lido, you HAVE to read the textual to make sure you are not missing anything important (because its not on the graphical).
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Next month. That's the reason for the noticible reduction in trip productivity for June.

I see a lot of lines with 11-12 days off. Ouch. Lot of guys went from working 15-17 days for 85 hours to working 18 or 19 days for 85 hours.

At the end of the day, this is what the vocal minority wanted. They managed to sway the entire pilot group into voting a trip rig out. You reap what you sow.
If 4 hrs. pay on a day at a hotel was in effect for June I'd have gotten 2 more days off because of the 8 hrs. extra credit added to my bid.

Yes, I want that.

On the other hand, several of my trips add up to pretty much exactly the rig which does me no good. And if its true that pay for day long sits was supposed to be in effect for June you can bet I'll be filing a grievance and telling everyone else to as well.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Benwhaa
So what is the latest and greatest at Compass? Any new news on upgrade time? I recall some posts saying 3 months others were at more (1yr).

Anyone got solid info?

Thx
So changing the topic a bit: the latest bid is showing the most junior Captain starting class on July 1st with the late November 2014 hire date. It makes it 7 months then (if you count from the new hire class to the upgrade class date). It will get even lower but no street Captains in my opinion any time soon...
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Old 05-27-2015, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by barabek
So changing the topic a bit: the latest bid is showing the most junior Captain starting class on July 1st with the late November 2014 hire date. It makes it 7 months then (if you count from the new hire class to the upgrade class date). It will get even lower but no street Captains in my opinion any time soon...
It will be interesting to see how far down the Alternate Captains go, but I agree, I don't see street captains anytime soon.
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Old 05-27-2015, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by barabek
So changing the topic a bit: the latest bid is showing the most junior Captain starting class on July 1st with the late November 2014 hire date. It makes it 7 months then (if you count from the new hire class to the upgrade class date). It will get even lower but no street Captains in my opinion any time soon...
Agree. It will fluctuate back and forth between November and Dec as most junior CA as bypassed FOs get their 1000 121 and upgrade.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Herc09
Got an email yesterday from compass asking me to call the recruiting hotline to set up an interview....got a voicemail and left a message. Anyone know how long it takes for them to call you back?
I played phone tag a few days. Just call every morning
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Old 05-27-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Snickers
We have a 4 hour min day so the second day would pay 4 hours and the total trip credit would be 11 hours instead of 9. With the ADTG it would have paid 9:30 (4:45 x 2).

Question still stands, are we receiving 4 hours credit for 30 hour overnights in June? If so, why wasn't the credit reflected in the value of the trip?
Still incorrect. Even with the ADTG, we still had min day pay of 4 hours when there was a duty period. So, in the example, it would have always paid 11 hours. ADTG only set a min average daily value as a trip rig...on top of our already set min day pay of 4 hrs.

4hrs of pay and credit starts in July. I guess they couldn't get everything ready for June.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingGorilla
Still incorrect. Even with the ADTG, we still had min day pay of 4 hours when there was a duty period. So, in the example, it would have always paid 11 hours. ADTG only set a min average daily value as a trip rig...on top of our already set min day pay of 4 hrs.

4hrs of pay and credit starts in July. I guess they couldn't get everything ready for June.
You are correct. Not sure how i fudged that one up.

if we'll be implementing 4 hrs pay and credit i assume (hope?) schedules will get better next month.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Snickers
You are correct. Not sure how i fudged that one up.

if we'll be implementing 4 hrs pay and credit i assume (hope?) schedules will get better next month.
I don't think anything can save us from this summer. The company got too far behind on training 9 months ago and now the summer poop storm that's been brewing all year is here. There's just too much flying for too few pilots. That's why I'm so confused by the low credit pairings. Hopefully that changes next month, but the summer schedule is probably set.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:41 AM
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I don't think anything can save us from this summer. The company got too far behind on training 9 months ago and now the summer poop storm that's been brewing all year is here. There's just too much flying for too few pilots. That's why I'm so confused by the low credit pairings. Hopefully that changes next month, but the summer schedule is probably set.
Exactly...must not be as short staffed as everyone thinks.
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