Flightsoffusion

To those who came back with constructive comments, thanks kindly. I apologise for not clarifying my question. I would most likely make the drive also.I was just curious if there was a lot of almost getting back to SAN when getting called back to base again. If this was the case that would mean there are a lot of one-day trips which I believe is not the case, correct? My last job I was at for 15 years and was on call pretty much 7/24 and it was a lot of driving back and forth an hour each way. Some days I was called back several times in one day. You can imagine, that got old pretty quick. I think that was a rare situation and that Compass is a lot more organised than the news business was. Again, thank you for your constructive replies. 121 is as foriegn to me as good seafood on the West Coast.

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conquestdz

Being on call at Compass is much different than at a 91 operation. We have three types of reserve now. First is regular reserve which is typically a 14 hour block in which you have to be contactable and able to report within 2 hours. Second is airport ready reserve. This is an 8 hour block where you have to be at the airport and able to report within 15 minutes. The last is long call reserve. This is new, and I am not completely familiar with it, but you have at least a 12ish hour call out. There is a very limited amount of log call reserve, and someone with more experience with it can give better details. With any of the reserves, if you are called to fly, 15 minutes after you block in, you are released until your next assignment. So, if you report for your 8 hour block of ready reserve at 06:30 and they immediately call you to do a SAN turn that finishes at 9:30, make sure you don't pick up your phone after 9:45. They can't let you get almost home, and then call you back. Do plan on making the drive quite a bit on reserve though. Many reserve assignments are 1 day trips that are broken off of some other trip, re-position and ferry flights, and ready reserve.

coryk

I know of at least two FO's doing the SAN-LAX commute. Usually on CP as we have I think 4 of the 5 daily flights most of the time. But that various month to month, and sometimes day to day. I did notice a newest SAN 10-7 page included information for AA so one could assume we may do that for AA as well in the coming months. Worst case... drive.

Flightsoffusion

Conquest/Cory, Thank you much for the info. May just be a mental block on my part, But I lost the translation on the part above. So, 6:30 is the show time of the 8 hour block. 8 hours later is 14:30. Beyond that, I'm clueless. LOL! Trust me, I'm trying! Maybe another example of what you were trying to convey? Would the San Diego turn be a trip ending in San Diego and beginning in LAX? Thanks much in advance. I guess that was why I was asking if someone could post an example of their reserve schedule for the rest of us amateurs to dissect. I had one from an SKW guy years ago but has since long disappeared.

conquestdz

All trips start and end in your base. In the example above I referenced a hypothetical SAN turn. Turn means an out and back trip, so you would be back to LAX long before your originally scheduled end time of 14:30 If you get an assignment that ends in LAX before 14:30 and they don't call or ACARS you with more flying within 15 minutes after you get to the gate in LAX, you just go off duty even though your original end time was 14:30. In other words, if they call you to fly on reserve, when you get back to base from that flight, you are done with work until you get a rest period, even if it is before your originally scheduled availability period is over.

coryk

A turn is just two flights that leave the base and go somewhere, then turn and go back. Everything in LA is pretty much a turn from either LA, or SEA. Lineholders and reserves do turns, however a reserve might get called to operate a flight to SFO then deadhead back to LAX. There really isn't a normal schedule for a reserve. You just have days that you owe the company and they can do whatever the want to within the confines of the 117 regulations and the contract. You may not fly for an entire stretch, or you might get assigned a 5 day trip that someone called out for. It just depends.

Don't get wrapped up on reserve, if you get hired here it will be short. A normal line has between 13-18 days off. Some guys like to bid all day trips with high credit and got 20 days off with 76 hours. But for most it's a mix of 1-5 day pairings.

A normal 3 day trip for example could look like this--

Day 1

LAX-PHX-LAX-MCI

Day 2

MCI-LAX-SEA

Day 3

SEA-LAX-LAS-LAX.

Seems easy enough right? Just wait until you hear "gate is occupied, it'll be about 15 minutes. Call when you get closer."

EuroMexPilot

?!? Excuse me ?!?

BlueMoon

Yea, I thought the west coast was supposed to have good seafood. I mean you guys have an ocean. Catch it, fry it, and put some butter on it.

Flightsoffusion

Both of you guys, this info is much appreciated as I think the light is starting to go on. Thank you.. Is that when you deplane the pax on the tarmac and make them walk to the terminal?

Flightsoffusion

Let me clarify, West Coast seafood is boiled leather compared to the New England coast. Just like Mex food is golden compared to the East Coast.