Hello Inspector

PhD level knowledge

Natca

Unless the batt gauge is driven from the hot batt bus, in which case if you left the volt switch on batt would eventually drain the batt.

TallWeeds

If you left DC meters on Batt with the battery off, only the amps gauge would read anything (a discharge) and yes the battery would die. Volts reads zero until the battery switch is placed to on.

HAL39

LOA 2014-01 C.3.a-d) Read and you shall be enlightened

The LOA overrides what you see in 4.B.1. It states (as clearly as the english language allows) that the 4 hours of pay and credit are for any duty period and calendar day away from domicile.

Each of us will have different preferences and motivations regarding this issue. We can still be respectful and follow the facts.

I personally prefer the 4 hour min day since I'm somewhat senior and can then be paid and credited for a 30 hour YVR layover in the midst of an otherwise productive and commutable trip. Junior / mid-seniority folks will prefer the 4:45 ADTG because they tend to be awarded pairings with absolutely horrible productivity. That being said, we will be so short staffed over the next few months that crew planning can't really afford to have a crewmember fly less than 5 hours / day. I would be amazed if the company intentionally reduced productivity of trips to less than 4:45 per day if we decided to follow LOA 2014-01 and ditch the ADTG. Even before this contract, when we still had a 4 hour min day, but no guaranteed pay for days away from base, the majority of trips averaged 5 - 6 hours / duty day.

Whether we stick with the 4:45 ADTG or go with the originally planned min 4 hour pay & credit for all days away from domicile, we have received a substantial gain in this section relative to our previous contract thanks to our negotiators.

404yxl

Why do you refuse to actually read the language. Is it that hard for you?

LOA 2014-01 C.3.a-d) Read and you shall be enlightened...
c."Pay of four hours (4:00) per Calendar Day away from domicile but assigned no duty shall become effective on the first day of the February 2014 bid month."
d."The issue of whether there is a Minimum Duty Period Credit per Calendar Day away from domicile but assigned no duty will be addressed outside of this implementation agreement."

LOA 2014-06 G.3 Read and you shall be enlightened...
All we get for going away from the adtg is... "Pilots shall receive 4 hours pay and credit for each calendar day away from base with no duty assigned"

There is no min day pay option without the adtg.

There is no min day option. Read above.

There was never a min day option. Read above.

There is no min day option. Read above.

404yxl

Funny how you cannot admit this whole time that you were wrong about the min day existing, and are trying to direct your mistakes over at the one person trying to set the record straight.

You were wrong. Fess up and move on.

Amazingly, you still are analyzing this all wrong. The company will build trips that minimizes their costs with the work rules we have. The adtg and the other option both help the pilot group. You need to understand how each helps us though before you spout out incorrect opinions.

404yxl

For all you new hires. Welcome to Compass. Unfortunately, there are more and more pilots here that feel like this.

HAL39

So you conveniently left out points a) and b) of that section of the LOA. What do they state?

HAL39

As I'm sure you will when you're senior. I am the minority, if the 4:45 ADTG better serves the group as a whole, so be it. I would rather the group is made better off than a select few...including myself. Hence the point of a union...we're all in this together

404yxl

Are you really this dense?

Why do you refuse to actually read the language. Is it that hard for you?

LOA 2014-01 C.3.a-b are min DUTY provisions

DUTY not DAY

How many times do some of you need to be shown something before you realize your perception is wrong?